Yeah, sorry. I don't bother debating with people who straight up lie.
”I don’t like the numbers, so I won’t read them” - if your attention span is insufficient to read a page of text, any form of nuanced discussion with you is pointless. Nobody is going to draw a picture book for you. I’m just going to ignore this conduct in the future since you’ve indicated that you have no intention of actually contributing to the discussion.
The NHS certainly has issues, the conservatives want to sell it to their mates & so they want it to fail (in a way that can't be traced back to them).
But in comparison to the American health system, it's perfect. Private healthcare in America and the UK might give a faster service, though especially in the UK you find the same surgeons working in both on different days of the week. Only entitled pieces of shit like the American system.
The issue in the UK is that the government thought they were the only corrupt people.
Buying rich peoples votes seems like a great idea on paper, though it raises ethical questions of why they paid people a percentage of their salary to be unemployed due to covid restrictions but people who can't work due to illness normally are paid below what you can survive on (and then pushed through a cycle of having their benefits taken away and reinstated when they go through three levels of complaints).
They should have looked at their own dodgy PPE contracts and thought "If we're doing this, then maybe the plebs are also committing fraud".
The NHS was never good and should be replaced with a mixed private-public insurance system, similar to those implemented in Norway, the Netherlands, Germany or Switzerland, all of which rank higher than the UK’s.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/oct/07/comment.comment
“The plebs committing fraud” is a pretty funny concept. Damn these poor people, getting money from the government for being prevented from working (at full capacity, or at all) by the government! Total nonsense - everyone should take every opportunity they can and apply for every penny they can get from the government - it is their money, and if the law says they’re entitled to it, they’re entitled to it.
I don't know what you're talking about. I guess if you went up to a doctor with this attitude of yours you probably got laughed out of the room? With good reason.
I’d rather go to the vet than to A&E - I wouldn’t have to wait 4+ hours to get the wrong diagnosis. God forbid I need anything done with a specialist - by the time I see one I might grow a beard. In all my time spent in the UK, I have never used the services of the NHS once, and I don’t intend to. Missus does because she has no choice, it’s how the system is set up, and to say that the care is inadequate is a gross understatement. My only “health emergencies” include occasional dental check-ups, and when it’s time for one, I buy a ticket to Poland and get it done privately because I don’t want my mouth to look like a set of piano keys. Not that any of this matters, this is not a thread about the NHS. The only reason why I’m mentioning it at all is because I’m paying for a system I will never, ever use with no option to opt out. Good, good.
