Direct X 11.1 is Windows 8 exclusive, no plans to retrofit

[Fishaman P]

I get that they're trying to force us to upgrade, but this is just terrible.
The one market that Windows 8 didn't appeal to was gamers (wait, reverse that; nope, that's wrong too, no one likes Win8).

WE NEED DX11.1!
If not that, then we DEFINITELY need DX12.

 

[Foxi4]

I get that they're trying to force us to upgrade, but this is just terrible.
The one market that Windows 8 didn't appeal to was gamers (wait, reverse that; nope, that's wrong too, no one likes Win8).

WE NEED DX11.1!
If not that, then we DEFINITELY need DX12.

That's odd, since Windows 8 was developed with games as one of its main focuses, it has a myriad of hidden "tweaks" for developers to use and, of course, now DX11.1, not to mention that the whole Metro UI smells of XBox 360 from a mile.

 

[VMM]

Steam is coming to Linux.
I don't give a fuck about Windows 8 or Directx.
We still have OpenGL

 

[Foxi4]

Steam is coming to Linux.

Enjoy the two dozen games you're getting so-far.

Availability of games is not in Valve's hands unless it's their own titles - everything else depends on the developers.

EDIT: My bad.

 

[Ritsuki]

Hmmm... I can upgrade my PC for free (thanks to the MSDN-AA partnership) but I'm really hesitating now. First time I saw W8, I was like "I'll NEVER install it". TBH, W8 biggest "problem" is that the new interface is way too touchscreeny imho. But if it's really that well optimized, I might go for it.

 

[Foxi4]

Hmmm... I can upgrade my PC for free (thanks to the MSDN-AA partnership) but I'm really hesitating now. First time I saw W8, I was like "I'll NEVER install it". TBH, W8 biggest "problem" is that the new interface is way too touchscreeny imho. But if it's really that well optimized, I might go for it.

My rule is "don't judge a book by it's cover". You can try it out for free - go for it. Won't cost you anything and you'll know for sure whether it's a system for you or not. I personally see a huge improvement performance-wise, I'm still trying to get used to the GUI, but it's only getting easier now that I realized that regardless of whether or not the search bar is up, I can just start typing the program's name and it will automatically display matches from the apps list, which is quite darn quick as I type faster than I use the mouse.

 

[VMM]

Enjoy the two dozen games you're getting so-far.

Availability of games is not in Valve's hands unless it's their own titles - everything else depends on the developers.

EDIT: My bad.

Valve is creating a console running ubuntu,
and using steam.
Prepare to see a sea of games coming to linux next year.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Valve is creating a console running ubuntu,
and using steam.
Prepare to see a sea of games coming to linux next year.

Uh, source please?

 

[Foxi4]

Valve is creating a console running ubuntu,
and using steam.
Prepare to see a sea of games coming to linux next year.

Well, damn. Good luck with that then, please enjoy your experience (provided it is true, of course).

 

[raulpica]

Really nice thread, there was a constructive debate, with sides pro-Win8 and anti-Win8 argumenting their views in a civil and reasoned way.

If only some other threads would go this way too!

I'll switch over to Win8 with my next PC, along with a nice SSD. Can't miss the new boat. I don't particularly care about DX11.1, as most games will keep using DX11 for at least 3-4 years anyway

 

[Foxi4]

Really nice thread, there was a constructive debate, with sides pro-Win8 and anti-Win8 argumenting their views in a civil and reasoned way.

If only some other threads would go this way too!

I'll switch over to Win8 with my next PC, along with a nice SSD. Can't miss the new boat. I don't particularly care about DX11.1, as most games will keep using DX11 for at least 3-4 years anyway

Pretty sure that (as the name implies) DX11.1 is an add-on for DX11 - it merely adds new features and polishes some old ones.

If the developers want proper stereoscopic 3D and other wonderful gimmicks, they'll have to include the extra functionality, and hence it's easy to check DX version, as seen by DX9-DX10 cross-compatible games, I don't think it's a long shot to assume that games could very well start using those extra features the moment developers start preparing for the upcoming PS4 and the XBox 720... because let's not lie to ourselves - consoles overtook the industry this generation.

 

[pwsincd]

i recall earlier this year valve said they would dev hardware if they had to , or something ... cant recall fully why they said that , but i didnt see no news of worth since.

 

[VMM]

Uh, source please?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/03/03/report-valve-developing-steam-box-console
http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2012/10/29/valves-big-switch-to-linux/

I've had better sources, but they are written in brazilian portuguese.

 

[Foxi4]

i recall earlier this year valve said they would dev hardware if they had to , or something ... cant recall fully why they said that , but i didnt see no news of worth since.

Steambox, coming to your living room in 2056 - launch titles? Half-Life 3 and Counter Strike: Source 2.

 

[Foxi4]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/03/03/report-valve-developing-steam-box-console
http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2012/10/29/valves-big-switch-to-linux/

All this means is that they *may* develop a console and they *are* porting Steam to Linux - we all know that. It doesn't mean that everything they have to offer on Steam will work.

 

[pwsincd]

We all indeed do know that , and of course it doesnt mean that . its a reference to the fact that i had heard of the news VMM suggested and that Guild pondered , and that consequently jogged my failing memory

 

[DanielJavierGuzz]

This gif should be something like "Direct x 11.1..... exclusive for windows 8"

 

[Deleted-236924]

ps. Running Windows XP on a virtual machine is a good option if you really need to use it for something (gaming for me). Otherwise go for Windows 7/8. Especially if your computer is newer.

Lol gaming in a virtual machine.

Embrace the pain of Ubuntu! (proud Ubuntu user)

I chuckled a bit.

 

[Rydian]

Well pretty much all VMs now can access the CPU directly, and some of the big-name ones give direct access to the GPU as well. My friend managed to run Project 64 with proper hardware acceleration in a VM (I believe it was virtualbox) on his Macbook Pro (since all the OSX N64 emulators suck)

 

[RodrigoDavy]

One question, is Directx really that better than OpenGL so it would be worth upgrading to W8 just for that? Because according to Valve converting Left 4 Dead 2 to OpenGL made the game faster even on Windows.

http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/