YOUR faith

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I believe that it's anoying that people actually come to your house, dinner time, bringing you the the light. (hurrdurr)
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I'm an atheist myself. I'm not really fond of this whole "god" thing.
I do find religions veeeeeeery interesting to read about. Like, old history of it.
 
I believe all things can be rationally discussed. Except this. Hahaha.

Well people have their own faith so just leave 'em to it. I'm not religious myself. Religion scares to be quite honest. I think it can do more bad than good, but of course you wonder what it's all about... It provides answers i guess. As long as you're not interfering with me or anyone else then it's cool. And i do realise that a lot of the brilliant things ever done on this planet was done through faith. It can make people stronger.

One thing that does bother me these days is the controversies here in ireland over the child abuse scandals. The catholic hierarchy must be coming to it's last days now surely? I mean the pope hasn't even mentioned it! I don't know how someone that stands for all that is good and living can let such things be swept under the carpet like that. It's disgusting really.
 
Paulieo said:
I used to be christian, but now I don't really have a religion. I only believe that there is some sort of god.
like there is some kind of person/thing watching over us,seeing if we are doing good or bad
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I believe I'd like to come back as a Japanese schoolgirl. Because then I could fiddle with one, and not get thrown in jail
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But I have faith I likely wouldn't get to be one of the pretty ones.
 
So here is the problem with god.

If he's there, there's no way to prove it. If he's not there, it doesn't matter.

I just can't understand why anyone believes in him. Especially when we have so much proof that so much of his books DO have proof that the writers are nuts.

The rock of ages, it can't deal with the age of rocks.
 
People believe in a divine being, because they desperately want a parent-figure guiding them. They want to be told what to do so that they feel they are on the "right" path. Their minds cannot accept that there is no "truth" or "justice". They cannot accept that people will do horrible things and not pay for it their entire life.
 
Blood Fetish said:
People believe in a divine being, because they desperately want a parent-figure guiding them. They want to be told what to do so that they feel they are on the "right" path. Their minds cannot accept that there is no "truth" or "justice". They cannot accept that people will do horrible things and not pay for it their entire life.
You're talking nonsense
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I'm not desperate for a parent-figurine guiding me, I don't want to be told anything, I'm free to accept everything, and most of all I actually hate the whole human species, as we are horrible race, and world, heck, Universe would be better off without us.

And I believe in God, Entity, some kind of force, call it whatever you like. I don't believe in religion, but I do believe in something holding everything together.

EDIT: I don't make assumptions towards people who don't believe in anything, so you shouldn't make any assumptions about people who do believe. It's all about ones preference. If we can agree to live and let live, I honestly don't care what somebody else is, eats, likes or believes!
 
^^^^ dude...shut up. Just because you dont believe doesn't mean you have to be a douche. I too don't have a god but doesn't mean I go around saying your dumb for not being like me. Even if there is no evidence of God existing, theres no evidence of him not exist. Dont go around claiming the ultimate truth when you cant be sure yourself. Or else you'll be "just as bad as them."


edit: that was for bloody fetish, not Toni.
 
we have a saying in my book el qur2an since iam muslim that says god is a one and only and was never born or never gave birth but in arabic ofcourse is different its is just an explanation thats islam and as toni said all ppl either belivers or not should live in peace and harmony with each other and accept each others point of view
 
Blood Fetish said:
People believe in a divine being, because they desperately want a parent-figure guiding them. They want to be told what to do so that they feel they are on the "right" path. Their minds cannot accept that there is no "truth" or "justice". They cannot accept that people will do horrible things and not pay for it their entire life.

I don't believe in a god because I need a parent-figure. The only thing that guides me is myself, that's why I don't like religion, because they are always saying what you can and can't do and you will go to some sort of place for eternal pain and suffering if you don't do what they say. They just want to scare you into doing what they want. I think that's nonsense so I decided, I'm not going to follow any religion and just go with what I feel.
 
hesho said:
all ppl either belivers or not should live in peace and harmony with each other and accept each others point of view
Why should everyone accept each others point of view? What if I said a spirit visited me and told me that your god is not real and your mother dresses you funny? Would you respect that point of view simply because it can never be disproved?
 
Blood Fetish said:
hesho said:
all ppl either belivers or not should live in peace and harmony with each other and accept each others point of view
Why should everyone accept each others point of view? What if I said a spirit visited me and told me that your god is not real and your mother dresses you funny? Would you respect that point of view simply because it can never be disproved?
Are you dense? You respect a person's belief. Doesnt mean you have to agree with them. I dont care what you say a spirit told you. If you believe it and theres no special reasons for me not to believe you, I respect what you say. Just imagine it as a racial thing. Just because someone is a different color then you (i.e. different belief) do you not respect them?
 
Blood Fetish said:
hesho said:
all ppl either belivers or not should live in peace and harmony with each other and accept each others point of view
Why should everyone accept each others point of view? What if I said a spirit visited me and told me that your god is not real and your mother dresses you funny? Would you respect that point of view simply because it can never be disproved?
For once, I would, because honestly, I really don't care what you think. Still, doesn't change the fact that I do or don't believe in something, and it doesn't prove me being stupid for believing.
 
I'm agnostic. When NASA kills a probe to send it into the afterlife to confirm its existence, and sends back findings, I'll use that factual evidence to influence my "religion".

But, I am disturbed by the way that some use religion to commit horrible acts against humanity (some minor, some major). Because of that, I can't give credibility to most major organized religions.
 
dinofan01 said:
Just because someone is a different color then you (i.e. different belief) do you not respect them?
Race is an accident of birth. A person has no say in the matter. Religion is something a person makes a conscious decision to involve themself with. It is obvious why one can be viewed critically while another cannot.

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QUOTE(Toni Plutonij @ Mar 19 2010, 01:02 AM) Still, doesn't change the fact that I do or don't believe in something, and it doesn't prove me being stupid for believing.
If you do not think it is "stupid" to believe something without a shred of proof backing it, then what do you consider it?
 
i have to agree again with toni and dinofan1 coz yes i respect your point of you but i realy dont have to agree with it inside my self and watever u belive in or dont belive in wont mkae u a lesser man to me or a better man to me your charcter and personality is wat will define u so watever your apinion is i realy dont care about it i just respect it but i dont have to accept it or even beleive in it coz i beleive in my own thing
 

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