YOUR faith

[Overlord Nadrian]

Atheist. There is no proof at all of a God ever having existed. The Church just made it up to get some easy money. It's still getting easy money.

You forgot to mention that they invented it for social control, too.

Yeah, true, I forgot about that.

 

[Depravo]

Those who rabidly preach atheism are no better than their religious counterparts.

Until the existence/non-existence of divine beings can be empirically proven then agnosticism is the only reasonable course of action.

 

[KevInChester]

Kev do you honestly think that god is going to let you in heaven? atheist and two faced agnostics go to hell, only theists are let in.

Damn you!


QUOTEA big man in the sky has created you to have certain instincts and emotions, but if you ever acted on those instincts and emotions he would burn you in a big fire, forever, because he loves you. Whereas if you didn't he would reward you by making you drink his sons blood

 

[Advi]

Wow, the cynicism here...

I certainly don't believe science has any sort of lock on explaining where we came from. Yeah, we came from our parents, but where did they come from? Where did their ancestors come from? Where did they come from in the evolutionary chain? And then, where did all the stuff that comprises our universe come from? There's a place in every point of view that our ability to prove ANYTHING breaks down.

Someone can ask the same thing about higher powers that created the universe. Where did they come from? In the end, we all ask ourselves the same question. I can no more prove that they exist or that they do not exist than anyone else can.

In any case, I choose to believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior. I can no more prove that he is the Son of God than anyone else. Only circumstantially, and even then, I will run into the same problems as everyone else. It really is a matter of faith for everyone, even those that consider themselves atheists. They just put their faith in different things.

I also find it puzzling the caricature of religious people as people that ignore or don't care about science, that are somehow being hoodwinked. For me, science continually strengthens my faith. Science and faith are not mutually exclusive, and they never have been.

Indeed. Of course, that's not why people hate religion: it's the people that try to force their beliefs on others.

It has, and always will amaze me how people find comfort in converting people into their own beliefs. War is strictly condemned in every major religious book, be it the New Testament, Torah, Koran, yet more people have been killed in the name of God than in any other war: even today Islamic extremists fight against the major nations in the Middle East, while hundreds of years ago many people were royally executed for heresy against Christianity. On TV, lunatics like Glenn Beck say that to accept God into his heart made him rich and famous and that religion is vital to the government because our founding fathers were Christian. Also that the Constitution can't be changed, EVER. Also that atheists are completely incapable of morals. Also that women who solve math problems are witches.

Now, I'm all for freedom of religion. I believe it is a vital right in a democratic society. But if the Free Evangelicals come to my house and tell me I'm going to Hell one more time I swear I'm grabbing my knife.

 

[TrolleyDave]

for ppl who are athesists and stuff since iam muslim we belive in one god only so u ask yourselves this who do u think created your bodies and souls just a question

I believe nature did.

 

[Advi]

THE ONE TRUE FAITH!

 

[The Catboy]

THE ONE TRUE FAITH!

The one true faith

 

[rastsan]

I frogot to add what I believe in as faith really has not much to do with my belief...
Ahem I believe in
SEX #1
Aliens will eventually make themselves known to us (boyfriend is laughing at this alien part)
The world is so beautiful religion shouldn't even be a question just believe in the beauty

I also believe that humanity is really limiting themselves by trying to define things - their way

there is crap load of other things
uh being burried up to my neck in cow manure is no funnier then a baby making a face at something that tastes terrible or even looking at the pictures my boss took of me burried...
true ugliness is very hard to find and only can be found in really odd places but only in a beautiful way (ya I know HUH, but still)
more later I have to think about this

 

[Occult Tech]

To all those who push their religious views on others :


If you really, truly believed what you are spewing, you would feel comfortable enough not to have to try to persuade others that your beliefs are true. People who truly believe, who truly have faith, do not need to try to convert others.


Also, if you were not told specifically by your chosen divinity that you are their messenger, then you should not try to act as such ... oh, and if your chosen divinity did personally tell you to spread their word, you need to check your meds.

 

[Forstride]

Christians, as well as followers of other religions try to push conformity to people outside of their religion, not because they want to, but because God wants them to. It says in the Bible that we (I'm a Christian, so this obviously refers to followers of Christianity) should help anyone and everyone grow closer to God. If you don't want to believe, fine...But what are you going to do when God comes (I'm saying when, because I believe the Rapture will happen)? You can't just say "I believe" and get a one-way ticket to Heaven.

I don't even know why I'm posting this when no one will provide an argument back besides 'God doesn't exist, you can't prove anything.' You're right, you can't prove He exists, but you can't prove he doesn't. It IS based on belief, which is why the reward for believing is a great one (Well, that's all opinion of the theists/atheists). Most followers of Christianity say that faith is a test, and it is, because you have to believe in something you can't see, hear, feel, etc., which is a challenge when life is full of times you just want to say "fuck everything." I'm just sick of atheists acting like they're the shit because they refuse to believe. I'm not saying you have to, but when you put down my religion, as well as any other religion out there, that's a problem. Most of my friends are atheists, and half of them don't even know what the hell the word means. Compare religion nowadays to earlier times. It was abundant back then, because people didn't have music that pushed them away from theist beliefs (The people I know in real life that are atheists listen to metal, death metal, etc...The kind of music that people used to associate with Satan when it first started appearing), books that had other people portrayed as gods, and the list goes on...

The point is...I don't care if you're atheist, just don't bring down my religion...Atheism is a belief that spiritual beings don't exist, where as theism is a belief that spiritual beings do exist. Either way, you believe in something.

 

[syko5150]

I'm an Atheist but my fiancee and daughter are both Catholic. Just because i don't believe in a god or anything else that can't be proven doesn't mean I'm going to stop my family or anyone else for that matter in believing in whatever they so choose. You should just do whatever feels right to YOU and not care what others think.I Don't force my beliefs on anyone and don't want other people's beliefs forced on me...

 

[Occult Tech]

We don't need to bring down your organized religions, as they are doing a fine job of discrediting themselves.

Every suicide bomber, every ephebophile, every zealot ... all of them just turn people against their given religions.

More people convert to Zoroastrianism & Wicca each year now than convert to either Islam or Christianity.

People are looking to older faiths, as the current mainstream religions are packed with people who use it as an excuse or a weapon, or people who are just broken.

If there is a God, he, as Andrew Vachss so rightly said, needs to be sued for malpractice.

 

[SargeSmash]

You know, conversion is part of the Christian belief system. And you can't tell me that atheists aren't as *ahem* hell-bent on converting others to their point of view.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

for ppl who are athesists and stuff since iam muslim we belive in one god only so u ask yourselves this who do u think created your bodies and souls just a question

I believe nature did.

QFT.

@everyone that believes in any kind of supernatural being: You're free to do so, but never force your belief on others, it just makes it look bad.

 

[ProtoKun7]

for ppl who are athesists and stuff since iam muslim we belive in one god only so u ask yourselves this who do u think created your bodies and souls just a question

I believe nature did.

QFT.

@everyone that believes in any kind of supernatural being: You're free to do so, but never force your belief on others, it just makes it look bad.

What would your opinion be on letting people share the belief, but not forcing, letting someone make their own choice?

 

[Shadow&Light]

I think I just believe on my self, if You want something, the first thing you need it's self confidence

 

[Blaze163]

I believe it's all a load of bollocks. The only 'religion' I can even come close to justifying scientifically is the Gaia Theory, and that makes just as little sense as anything else, I can find some things in it that make some degree of sense but I'm clutching at straws. You want to know what I believe in? My friends, my judgement, and the morals I've arrived at on my own, not taken from a book hopelessly out of date and out of touch with modern society.

I also believe that we as a society need to spend less time worrying about the afterlife and concentrate on doing someting useful with the life we're living right now. I'm not dedicating my life to something we can't even be sure exists and forget to enjoy my life now. I'll deal with death when the time comes.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

for ppl who are athesists and stuff since iam muslim we belive in one god only so u ask yourselves this who do u think created your bodies and souls just a question

I believe nature did.

QFT.

@everyone that believes in any kind of supernatural being: You're free to do so, but never force your belief on others, it just makes it look bad.

What would your opinion be on letting people share the belief, but not forcing, letting someone make their own choice?

That's okay (unless in some cases), but a lot of religious people just (use the) force all the time.

 

[Uchiha Obito]

THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE!!!

 

[Zerousen]

I'm an Atheist but my fiancee and daughter are both Catholic. Just because i don't believe in a god or anything else that can't be proven doesn't mean I'm going to stop my family or anyone else for that matter in believing in whatever they so choose. You should just do whatever feels right to YOU and not care what others think.I Don't force my beliefs on anyone and don't want other people's beliefs forced on me...

One famous Buddhist monk once said in a faq for people who want to learn about Buddhism is,if you love someone/they love you/ they are your friend,you dont force your religions onto them and vice versa,because then if they/you did,you/they are not really your friend. people must respect each others religions,whether you think they are totally right or totally wrong............gah i sound like my mother. one time,these two snobbish girls asked me a bunch of questions(only me,because I was asian),and I said I was Buddhist. well,they screamed and said that if I don't believe in god,than I would go to hell. -.- its not the I don't believe in him,I just dont worship him,but I do respect their religions. I'm trying to study atheism,because I think that its one of the most logical of all religions.