Hacking Will arm9 ever work without a SDcard?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Supster131

(づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ *:・゚✧
Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2016
Messages
3,315
Trophies
1
Location
My Computer
XP
2,745
Country
United States
you took it out to put files on before heading out, and forgot to pick it up so figure you will just play your carts instead......but dum dum duuummmm you cant XD

as much as its a very uncommon situation having use a9lh there has been a few times i have wanted to do something quickly on a different SD and not been able to as i didnt have the a9lh files on the SD card
At least you gave a reason!

I mean, yeah, it can happen I guess :P This is why I mostly use MicroSD Management. (That and removing the back plate each time I need to transfer files gets quite tedious.)
 

uyjulian

Homebrewer
Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2012
Messages
2,567
Trophies
2
Location
United States
Website
sites.google.com
XP
3,522
Country
United States
you took it out to put files on before heading out, and forgot to pick it up so figure you will just play your carts instead......but dum dum duuummmm you cant XD

as much as its a very uncommon situation having use a9lh there has been a few times i have wanted to do something quickly on a different SD and not been able to as i didnt have the a9lh files on the SD card
you can use godmode9 to tempararlly copy a9lh files to nand, then unmount sd, put in new sd, copy a9lh files on new sd, delete a9lh files on nand
 
  • Like
Reactions: gamesquest1

astronautlevel

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jan 26, 2016
Messages
4,127
Trophies
0
Location
Maryland
Website
ataber.pw
XP
4,975
Country
United States
You say I am salty? Yet you are the one getting defensive because I did not want to use the hack you use.Kids these days.

@Sicklyboy please lock my thread.
Dude, we've offered to help you if you gave a reason that you wanted arm9loaderhax to work without the SD. It's just a lot of the devs don't see it as a priority at all.
 

gamesquest1

Nabnut
Former Staff
Joined
Sep 23, 2013
Messages
15,153
Trophies
2
XP
12,237
yeah the other one for me was dumping some 3DS games, i didnt have space on my main SD so i just threw a spare 8gb card in but as i didnt have all the a9lh files on it wouldn't work, so for as much as yeah no SD requirement is a "luxury" if it was possible and someone had the time to do it it would be nice :P

im sure we are all aware the uses for such a feature is trivial but it would be kinda cool to have 110% functionality with 0 drawbacks as right now that is literally the only downfall of using a9lh
 
Last edited by gamesquest1,
  • Like
Reactions: astronautlevel

funnystory

Banned!
OP
Banned
Joined
Sep 20, 2008
Messages
1,472
Trophies
0
XP
940
Country
United States
Dude, we've offered to help you if you gave a reason that you wanted arm9loaderhax to work without the SD. It's just a lot of the devs don't see it as a priority at all.

I do not want my n3ds to be a brick without an sdcard lol. I do not need to explain myself further than that as it is my system that I will be using,the question was answered and after that it turned into smart aleck replies. I just don't get why everytime people ask questions it turns into banter and insults. Only forum that this type of stuff is allowed,worse of all is that if I engage these people I get suspensions. Look at xbox 360 flashing forums or se7ensins,you never catch the attitude you get on here. If you go through the 3ds flashcard & custom firmware sections,you will see how most threads have at least 2-3 people replying nothing but disrespectful garble.

People end up with bricks because they are afraid to ask questions because of the trolling that is tolerated here

-We do watch the threads (Ska)
 

astronautlevel

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jan 26, 2016
Messages
4,127
Trophies
0
Location
Maryland
Website
ataber.pw
XP
4,975
Country
United States
I do not want my n3ds to be a brick without an sdcard lol. I do not need to explain myself further than that as it is my system that I will be using,the question was answered and after that it turned into smart aleck replies. I just don't get why everytime people ask questions it turns into banter and insults. Only forum that this type of stuff is allowed,worse of all is that if I engage these people I get suspensions. Look at xbox 360 flashing forums or se7ensins,you never catch the attitude you get on here. If you go through the 3ds flashcard & custom firmware sections,you will see how most threads have at least 2-3 people replying nothing but disrespectful garble.
I do agree with you that too much of the 3ds forums is just arguments over menial things.

I can see your point about not wanting a bricked 3ds without an SD card, but given that it would be difficult (you'd probably need to load an arm11 thread from arm9; Aurora Wright is working on that for region free patches, maybe it can be applied to arm9loaderhax?) and not having your SD card is an edge case, most devs don't see it as a high priority.

That being said, most people see this as a very minor drawback when compared with the benefits of a9lh, included getting rid of EmuNAND, 100% boot rate, and 10 second boot speeds, and think it's silly to not switch just because of the lack of an SD card.

It's your system, so do what you want, but I think you're making a mistake by not switching.

To answer the question in your OP: As far as we know, no one is working on getting arm9loaderhax booting without an SD card.
 
Last edited by astronautlevel,
  • Like
Reactions: NekoMichi

funnystory

Banned!
OP
Banned
Joined
Sep 20, 2008
Messages
1,472
Trophies
0
XP
940
Country
United States
I do agree with you that too much of the 3ds forums is just arguments over menial things.

I can see your point about not wanting a bricked 3ds without an SD card, but given that it would be difficult (you'd probably need to load an arm11 thread from arm9; Aurora Wright is working on that for region free patches, maybe it can be applied to arm9loaderhax?) and not having your SD card is an edge case, most devs don't see it as a high priority.

That being said, most people see this as a very minor drawback when compared with the benefits of a9lh, included getting rid of EmuNAND, 100% boot rate, and 10 second boot speeds, and think it's silly to not switch just because of the lack of an SD card.

It's your system, so do what you want, but I think you're making a mistake by not switching.

I want to try it out first and see if I can deal with it lol,if I wanted could I just flash a nand.bin back to revert a9lh?
 

gamesquest1

Nabnut
Former Staff
Joined
Sep 23, 2013
Messages
15,153
Trophies
2
XP
12,237
yeah i would say the advantages easily outweigh the cons, but that being said, if you are happy with your current setup and you menuhax bootrates are good there is no point rushing into it, who knows maybe someday the no SD card dream will be a reality :P
 
  • Like
Reactions: peteruk

dubbz82

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 2, 2014
Messages
1,572
Trophies
0
Age
40
XP
1,205
Country
United States
yeah i would say the advantages easily outweigh the cons, but that being said, if you are happy with your current setup and you menuhax bootrates are good there is no point rushing into it, who knows maybe someday the no SD card dream will be a reality :P


Still don't quite get how or why this is a dream...yay for less available storage, i guess?
 
D

Deleted User

Guest
Wasn't this posted before somewhere else? Swear like I've seen this before.

The way I see it is, sure you can boot the unit without an SD card, but then you're just left with a sysNAND. So all you really have is just being able to play cartridges.

TBH I'd just stick with menuHax in your situation. You aren't gaining anything really by moving to A9LH other than higher boot rates/lower loading times.

ah yes: http://gbatemp.net/threads/question-about-arm9hax.416198/

So I'll post what I had there.

As stated above the reason is for example if you wanted to switch payloads you'd be forced to restore a backup and reflash firm0/1 over again. That comes with its own inherent risks of bricking. Also there's a good chance that there could not be enough space in the firm0/1 partitions for the payload.

In that case if you flashed a payload to firm0/1 and it had an issue or problem, you've caused yourself a brick as at that point you have a non-bootable console with no recovery short of hard modding. So it becomes a cyclic issue.

Since there are no private signing keys available, you won't be seeing a "true CFW" any time soon.

The best case at this point is to just load from SD. There's no real speed penalty to doing so and you can swap payloads at the drop of a hat.

The n3ds would only be a brick if you had no arm9haxloader.bin on the SD. Though personally I keep a folder on the Unit with different payloads and just use the file manager to move them around if necessary.

That and if at some point you don't want A9LH you just restore your SysNAND. To me it just seems installing on the nand just makes things worse as the worst case scenario becomes more likely. All it takes in that's case is maybe a bad compile or compiler errors and you have yourself a brick.
 
Last edited by ,
  • Like
Reactions: funnystory

funnystory

Banned!
OP
Banned
Joined
Sep 20, 2008
Messages
1,472
Trophies
0
XP
940
Country
United States
Wasn't this posted before somewhere else? Swear like I've seen this before.

The way I see it is, sure you can boot the unit without an SD card, but then you're just left with a sysNAND. So all you really have is just being able to play cartridges.

TBH I'd just stick with menuHax in your situation. You aren't gaining anything really by moving to A9LH other than higher boot rates/lower loading times.

ah yes: http://gbatemp.net/threads/question-about-arm9hax.416198/

So I'll post what I had there.

I saw someone mention it yesterday that a minipastacfw could eventually be figured out. I just like the idea of having cfw on boot up no strings attached.
 

Supster131

(づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ *:・゚✧
Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2016
Messages
3,315
Trophies
1
Location
My Computer
XP
2,745
Country
United States
I saw someone mention it yesterday that a minipastacfw could eventually be figured out. I just like the idea of having cfw on boot up no strings attached.
Yeah, it'll probably still happen. Just give it some time.
First the devs want to figure out a fully working recovery mode within A9LH.
After that, they may look towards getting A9LH to work without an SD card.
 

democracy

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2009
Messages
910
Trophies
0
XP
730
Country
United States
I really want to install arm9 on my n3ds but this is the only thing holding me back. Does anyone know if a solution is being worked on?
Well, if arm9 is moved into nand instead of SD card and instead the hack looks for arm9 in nand instead of sd, what will happen if the arm9 bin becomes corrupted? Think about it...
 
Last edited by democracy,

MattKimura

3DS & WiiU Enthusiast
Member
Joined
Jun 30, 2014
Messages
2,137
Trophies
1
XP
2,793
Country
United States
What happens when you turn on the 3DS without the SD, a black screen? Or can it cause a problem and it should be a warning not to ever boot without an SD?
 

Mazamin

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2014
Messages
1,891
Trophies
0
XP
2,818
Country
Italy
I don't know if someone already suggested this, but we could change the payload to run the executable from the nand and not the SD. This could be useful if in the future our sd card slot will get faulty and then we'll not be able to boot it up anymore.
 

dg_dex

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2016
Messages
142
Trophies
0
Age
58
XP
92
Country
This master race nonsense is exactly that. There is no such thing given the scenarios we have at our disposal now. Menuhax serves it's propose. Just as A9LH does to you guys here. It doesn't mean one hack is better than other. Why cause a divide within a community just for the sake of trying to be the "bigger, master" of them all. It makes no sense to me.

If A prefers Menuhax and B prefers A9LH. This does not mean that B is superior to A. It just means that A and B prefer one hack over the other.

Same goes for A. A needs to stop defending Manuhax and B needs to stop defending A9LH. A and B are technically controlled by the devs of those hacks. Without those devs, you would all be screwed. Do you think the devs of both these hacks think little of each other. Highly doubtful. They learn from each other. I doubt that they slag each other off and boast who's hack is best. It's children attempting to act all high and mighty. It's exactly the same situation between the PS4 vs Xbox vs PC "master race". Here's an idea. Why don't you all actually play those consoles rather than spending (wasting) your time defending something that the developers couldn't care less about.

Rant over.
 
Last edited by dg_dex,
  • Like
Reactions: NekoMichi and Ryft
Status
Not open for further replies.
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • JuanMena @ JuanMena:
    Kissing random dudes choking in celery? Really? Need to study for that?
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Yes it requires a degree
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    I could also yank out the rest of my teeth but theirs professionals for that
  • x65943 @ x65943:
    If your throat closes, putting oxygen in your mouth will not solve anything - as you will be introducing oxygen prior to the area of obstruction
  • JuanMena @ JuanMena:
    Just kiss me Kyle.
  • x65943 @ x65943:
    You either need to be intubated to bypass obstruction or create a stoma inferior to the the area of obstruction to survive
  • x65943 @ x65943:
    "Just kiss me Kyle." And I thought all the godreborn gay stuff was a smear campaign
  • JuanMena @ JuanMena:
    If I die, tell my momma I won't be carrying Baby Jesus this christmas :sad::cry:
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Smear campaigns are in The political section now?
  • JuanMena @ JuanMena:
    Chary! Chary! Chary, Chary, Chary!
  • Sonic Angel Knight @ Sonic Angel Knight:
    Pork Provolone :P
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    Sounds yummy
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Sweet found my Wii u PSU right after I ordered a new one :tpi:
  • JuanMena @ JuanMena:
    It was waiting for you to order another one.
    Seems like, your PSU was waiting for a partner.
  • JuanMena @ JuanMena:
    Keep them both
    separated or you'll have more PSUs each year.
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Well one you insert one PSU into the other one you get power
  • JuanMena @ JuanMena:
    It literally turns it on.
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Yeah power supplies are filthy perverts
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    @Psionic Roshambo has a new friend
    +1
  • JuanMena @ JuanMena:
    It's Kyle, the guy that went to school to be a Certified man Kisser.
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    Cartmans hand has taco flavored kisses
  • A @ abraarukuk:
    hi guys
  • Iron_Masuku @ Iron_Masuku:
    Hello
    Skelletonike @ Skelletonike: hmm