Hacking Will arm9 ever work without a SDcard?

[Supster131]

you took it out to put files on before heading out, and forgot to pick it up so figure you will just play your carts instead......but dum dum duuummmm you cant XD

as much as its a very uncommon situation having use a9lh there has been a few times i have wanted to do something quickly on a different SD and not been able to as i didnt have the a9lh files on the SD card

At least you gave a reason!

I mean, yeah, it can happen I guess This is why I mostly use MicroSD Management. (That and removing the back plate each time I need to transfer files gets quite tedious.)

 

[funnystory]

Yeah.. some salt makes my soup have some flavor.. but this much salt? My soup's spoiled now..

*Throws away my soup*

You say I am salty? Yet you are the one getting defensive because I did not want to use the hack you use.Kids these days.

@Sicklyboy please lock my thread.

 

[uyjulian]

you took it out to put files on before heading out, and forgot to pick it up so figure you will just play your carts instead......but dum dum duuummmm you cant XD

as much as its a very uncommon situation having use a9lh there has been a few times i have wanted to do something quickly on a different SD and not been able to as i didnt have the a9lh files on the SD card

you can use godmode9 to tempararlly copy a9lh files to nand, then unmount sd, put in new sd, copy a9lh files on new sd, delete a9lh files on nand

 

[astronautlevel]

You say I am salty? Yet you are the one getting defensive because I did not want to use the hack you use.Kids these days.

@Sicklyboy please lock my thread.

Dude, we've offered to help you if you gave a reason that you wanted arm9loaderhax to work without the SD. It's just a lot of the devs don't see it as a priority at all.

 

[gamesquest1]

yeah the other one for me was dumping some 3DS games, i didnt have space on my main SD so i just threw a spare 8gb card in but as i didnt have all the a9lh files on it wouldn't work, so for as much as yeah no SD requirement is a "luxury" if it was possible and someone had the time to do it it would be nice

im sure we are all aware the uses for such a feature is trivial but it would be kinda cool to have 110% functionality with 0 drawbacks as right now that is literally the only downfall of using a9lh

 

[funnystory]

Dude, we've offered to help you if you gave a reason that you wanted arm9loaderhax to work without the SD. It's just a lot of the devs don't see it as a priority at all.

I do not want my n3ds to be a brick without an sdcard lol. I do not need to explain myself further than that as it is my system that I will be using,the question was answered and after that it turned into smart aleck replies. I just don't get why everytime people ask questions it turns into banter and insults. Only forum that this type of stuff is allowed,worse of all is that if I engage these people I get suspensions. Look at xbox 360 flashing forums or se7ensins,you never catch the attitude you get on here. If you go through the 3ds flashcard & custom firmware sections,you will see how most threads have at least 2-3 people replying nothing but disrespectful garble.

People end up with bricks because they are afraid to ask questions because of the trolling that is tolerated here

-We do watch the threads (Ska)

 

[astronautlevel]

I do not want my n3ds to be a brick without an sdcard lol. I do not need to explain myself further than that as it is my system that I will be using,the question was answered and after that it turned into smart aleck replies. I just don't get why everytime people ask questions it turns into banter and insults. Only forum that this type of stuff is allowed,worse of all is that if I engage these people I get suspensions. Look at xbox 360 flashing forums or se7ensins,you never catch the attitude you get on here. If you go through the 3ds flashcard & custom firmware sections,you will see how most threads have at least 2-3 people replying nothing but disrespectful garble.

I do agree with you that too much of the 3ds forums is just arguments over menial things.

I can see your point about not wanting a bricked 3ds without an SD card, but given that it would be difficult (you'd probably need to load an arm11 thread from arm9; Aurora Wright is working on that for region free patches, maybe it can be applied to arm9loaderhax?) and not having your SD card is an edge case, most devs don't see it as a high priority.

That being said, most people see this as a very minor drawback when compared with the benefits of a9lh, included getting rid of EmuNAND, 100% boot rate, and 10 second boot speeds, and think it's silly to not switch just because of the lack of an SD card.

It's your system, so do what you want, but I think you're making a mistake by not switching.

To answer the question in your OP: As far as we know, no one is working on getting arm9loaderhax booting without an SD card.

 

[funnystory]

I do agree with you that too much of the 3ds forums is just arguments over menial things.

I can see your point about not wanting a bricked 3ds without an SD card, but given that it would be difficult (you'd probably need to load an arm11 thread from arm9; Aurora Wright is working on that for region free patches, maybe it can be applied to arm9loaderhax?) and not having your SD card is an edge case, most devs don't see it as a high priority.

That being said, most people see this as a very minor drawback when compared with the benefits of a9lh, included getting rid of EmuNAND, 100% boot rate, and 10 second boot speeds, and think it's silly to not switch just because of the lack of an SD card.

It's your system, so do what you want, but I think you're making a mistake by not switching.

I want to try it out first and see if I can deal with it lol,if I wanted could I just flash a nand.bin back to revert a9lh?

 

[astronautlevel]

I want to try it out first and see if I can deal with it lol,if I wanted could I just flash a nand.bin back to revert a9lh?

That is correct. Arm9loaderhax overwrites the FIRM0/1 partitions of your NAND, so in order to revert it, you need to flash a pre-arm9loaderhax backup.

 

[VinsCool]

I want to try it out first and see if I can deal with it lol,if I wanted could I just flash a nand.bin back to revert a9lh?

Yes, it will revert all the A9LH process.

 

[gamesquest1]

yeah i would say the advantages easily outweigh the cons, but that being said, if you are happy with your current setup and you menuhax bootrates are good there is no point rushing into it, who knows maybe someday the no SD card dream will be a reality

 

[astronautlevel]

One benefit I forgot to mention was that arm9loaderhax makes bricking essentially impossible by allowing you to load decrypt9 before the NAND loads, so even if you brick your NAND you can load decrypt9 and restore a backup.

 

[dubbz82]

yeah i would say the advantages easily outweigh the cons, but that being said, if you are happy with your current setup and you menuhax bootrates are good there is no point rushing into it, who knows maybe someday the no SD card dream will be a reality

Still don't quite get how or why this is a dream...yay for less available storage, i guess?

 

[Deleted User]

Wasn't this posted before somewhere else? Swear like I've seen this before.

The way I see it is, sure you can boot the unit without an SD card, but then you're just left with a sysNAND. So all you really have is just being able to play cartridges.

TBH I'd just stick with menuHax in your situation. You aren't gaining anything really by moving to A9LH other than higher boot rates/lower loading times.

ah yes: http://gbatemp.net/threads/question-about-arm9hax.416198/

So I'll post what I had there.

As stated above the reason is for example if you wanted to switch payloads you'd be forced to restore a backup and reflash firm0/1 over again. That comes with its own inherent risks of bricking. Also there's a good chance that there could not be enough space in the firm0/1 partitions for the payload.

In that case if you flashed a payload to firm0/1 and it had an issue or problem, you've caused yourself a brick as at that point you have a non-bootable console with no recovery short of hard modding. So it becomes a cyclic issue.

Since there are no private signing keys available, you won't be seeing a "true CFW" any time soon.

The best case at this point is to just load from SD. There's no real speed penalty to doing so and you can swap payloads at the drop of a hat.

The n3ds would only be a brick if you had no arm9haxloader.bin on the SD. Though personally I keep a folder on the Unit with different payloads and just use the file manager to move them around if necessary.

That and if at some point you don't want A9LH you just restore your SysNAND. To me it just seems installing on the nand just makes things worse as the worst case scenario becomes more likely. All it takes in that's case is maybe a bad compile or compiler errors and you have yourself a brick.

 

[funnystory]

Wasn't this posted before somewhere else? Swear like I've seen this before.

The way I see it is, sure you can boot the unit without an SD card, but then you're just left with a sysNAND. So all you really have is just being able to play cartridges.

TBH I'd just stick with menuHax in your situation. You aren't gaining anything really by moving to A9LH other than higher boot rates/lower loading times.

ah yes: http://gbatemp.net/threads/question-about-arm9hax.416198/

So I'll post what I had there.

I saw someone mention it yesterday that a minipastacfw could eventually be figured out. I just like the idea of having cfw on boot up no strings attached.

 

[Supster131]

I saw someone mention it yesterday that a minipastacfw could eventually be figured out. I just like the idea of having cfw on boot up no strings attached.

Yeah, it'll probably still happen. Just give it some time.
First the devs want to figure out a fully working recovery mode within A9LH.
After that, they may look towards getting A9LH to work without an SD card.

 

[democracy]

I really want to install arm9 on my n3ds but this is the only thing holding me back. Does anyone know if a solution is being worked on?

Well, if arm9 is moved into nand instead of SD card and instead the hack looks for arm9 in nand instead of sd, what will happen if the arm9 bin becomes corrupted? Think about it...

 

[MattKimura]

What happens when you turn on the 3DS without the SD, a black screen? Or can it cause a problem and it should be a warning not to ever boot without an SD?

 

[Mazamin]

I don't know if someone already suggested this, but we could change the payload to run the executable from the nand and not the SD. This could be useful if in the future our sd card slot will get faulty and then we'll not be able to boot it up anymore.

 

[dg_dex]

This master race nonsense is exactly that. There is no such thing given the scenarios we have at our disposal now. Menuhax serves it's propose. Just as A9LH does to you guys here. It doesn't mean one hack is better than other. Why cause a divide within a community just for the sake of trying to be the "bigger, master" of them all. It makes no sense to me.

If A prefers Menuhax and B prefers A9LH. This does not mean that B is superior to A. It just means that A and B prefer one hack over the other.

Same goes for A. A needs to stop defending Manuhax and B needs to stop defending A9LH. A and B are technically controlled by the devs of those hacks. Without those devs, you would all be screwed. Do you think the devs of both these hacks think little of each other. Highly doubtful. They learn from each other. I doubt that they slag each other off and boast who's hack is best. It's children attempting to act all high and mighty. It's exactly the same situation between the PS4 vs Xbox vs PC "master race". Here's an idea. Why don't you all actually play those consoles rather than spending (wasting) your time defending something that the developers couldn't care less about.

Rant over.