Wii successor playable at E3!

[TheDarkSeed]

Sony plans to have the ps3's life span to run for ten years. I say from this point the next gen will come in 2 years and lay over the ps3's lifespan(hopefully it's servers are more secure -_-).

Oh well. If I buy this Nintendo system when it comes out, it ill be the first system I by at launch ever!

 

[bowser]

No need for ps4.
The only console that needs a successor (except the Wii) is the xbox 360, the games are limited to 8gb's.
I can see a ps4 coming out late 2014, though.

That's stupid logic.
If you want to say MS should release 720 first, you say because it came out first.

 

[lostdwarf]

so... any chance we can get back on topic guys?

My source says the controllers he has worked on are charged via USB confirmed.
NO BATTERIES needed! Also aparently if you go too far from the console your controller shuts off and the console saves your game.

edit:
He has just told me to stop asking questions and wait now as any furthur info would single him out

so far he has told me:

USB charged controllers
BIG Screen is confirmed (his company make them)
resistive touch screen which is pressure sensitive
stereo speakers
camera facing player
gyro motion
some form of storage/flash/ram or something (i not sure what he means)
bluetooth/wifi
2 sticks (not nubs like 3DS)
4 buttons and 4 shoulder buttons.
looks like a love child of a PSP and xbox360 controller (see previous link a couple pages back)


ahhhh I feel cleansed... next gen good-ness.

 

[bowser]

Won't a resistive touchscreen require using a stylus (or fingernails atleast)? Will be a bit awkward to use the controller by holding it with only one hand and using the other hand for input. It should have capacitive touchscreens like the iPhone for good usability.

 

[Mr.Mysterio]

Nintendo announcing a new console on my birthday. Awesome!!!
That aside, really interested to see this unique never-before-done controller. I really can't see how Nintendo's gonna pull off such a thing. Hope they surprise us.

 

[Nollog]

Why? Why would he say that because the 360 came first? What reason would he have to do that? What about it being released first would have ANY bearing on his opinion?
Not talking about her opinion.
Talking about logical succession of game consoles.
MS released 360 a longer time ago, than sony released the ps3. They have been in the market with their device longer.
It stands to reason that they would release before the late-comer with the highest spec.

And you complain about his reason.
4Srs? You really don't see time as a reason?
So NES to SNES wasn't 5/6 years?
xbox to 360 wasn't 4/5 years?
Everything of the console release model is about consumers getting bored of a product's capabilities the longer it's out.
It's the reason for the second generation of consoles, and the third, and so on.

No need for ps4.
The only console that needs a successor (except the Wii) is the xbox 360, the games are limited to 8gb's.
I can see a ps4 coming out late 2014, though.
That's stupid logic.
If you want to say MS should release 720 first, you say because it came out first.

*imgreply*

orly?
Size of disc medium is a stupid reason to release a whole new console.
Put games on a second ballsing disc if you're that desperate to have uncompressed video and textures. Or how about you use the new algorithm they're working on in beta?
The progress of technology - over the 5/6 years since 360 was released - on the other hand...

QUOTE(bowser @ Apr 27 2011, 11:35 AM)

It should have capacitive touchscreens like the iPhone for good usability.

So they'd end up with the same thing, just more expensive?
resistive and capacitive can be touched with fingers. I use fingers on my 3DS if I'm too lazy to try and get the stylus out of the awkward position of its holder.

QUOTE(lostdwarf @ Apr 27 2011, 10:04 AM)

some form of storage/flash/ram or something (i not sure what he means)

What'd he say?

 

[lostdwarf]

sure you do *ahem... readies sarcasm*
them blue rays are massive man, need a massive console to hold the weight.

NOW, BACK ON TOPIC! please stop bitching guys.

What colour do you think they will go with?
I am hoping for a dark-grey/dark-blue console as it would stand out nice.

 

[Nollog]

sure you do *ahem... readies sarcasm*
them blue rays are massive man, need a massive console to hold the weight.

NOW, BACK ON TOPIC! please stop bitching guys.

What colour do you think they will go with?
I am hoping for a dark-grey/dark-blue console as it would stand out nice.
hey! answer my Q!
What's the guy say about ram or whatever?


QUOTE(lostdwarf @ Apr 27 2011, 10:04 AM) some form of storage/flash/ram or something (i not sure what he means)

What'd he say?

 

[lostdwarf]

I was a bit dismayed when he said resistive screen but DS range has worked brilliantly with them for donkeys so I think it will be fine.

Capacitive screens THE BAD:

They can easily smash and crack and scratch!
are not precise at all (need a whole finger to work) (can buy special stylus but you will break your glass lol)
they dont always work in certain humidity conditions.
Are NOT pressure sensitive (although you can fool them by using surface area)
They are made of glass, use a lot of power, bad choice for a controller that has to be cheap and efficient.
They can smash.
They can smash...
ever tried to draw something on the iphone/ipad/smartphone? fingers are fat (and i have tiny fingers)
are you one of those who swears texting on a smartphone is easy? bull! its a pain in the arse.
They smash.


Resistive benifits:
super precise
can use stylus or any round tipped object (including your fingers) as it registers pressure rather than electricity.
screen is soft and can 'take a hit'
resistive is a lot cheaper
less reflective
simple screen protector will ensure long life as it wont scratch
Nintendo already use these on 3DS making it very concievable it will be a fully functional controller.

 

[lostdwarf]

sure you do *ahem... readies sarcasm*
them blue rays are massive man, need a massive console to hold the weight.

NOW, BACK ON TOPIC! please stop bitching guys.

What colour do you think they will go with?
I am hoping for a dark-grey/dark-blue console as it would stand out nice.
hey! answer my Q!
What's the guy say about ram or whatever?


QUOTE(lostdwarf @ Apr 27 2011, 10:04 AM) some form of storage/flash/ram or something (i not sure what he means)

What'd he say?

soz didnt see your post untill now.
He said "it has a low amount of storage"
This is what i have been trying to understand myself.
I think it either means;
1) it has flash memory for storing games?
2) it has RAM for remembering/streaming games?
3) it has its own CPU/GPU

 

[Nollog]

some form of storage/flash/ram or something (i not sure what he means)

What'd he say?

soz didnt see your post untill now.
He said "it has a low amount of storage"
This is what i have been trying to understand myself.
I think it either means;
1) it has flash memory for storing games?
2) it has RAM for remembering/streaming games?
3) it has its own CPU/GPU

Oh right.
I think it means it doesn't have much storage(wiimotes have a few slots for mii's - possibly like that).
All it's supposed to do is stream the content from the wii2, it's not meant to be a portable so it wouldn't need much storage.
-Storage isn't RAM, if your sauce knows this or not is the question... Could be more interesting if she doesn't.

 

[lostdwarf]

I have been told the new controller for the next nintendo console is to have a slightly odd 800x520 screen resolution, stereo speakers, player facing camera, gyro motion, twin sticks (set up the same as a xbox360) 4 shoulder buttons and four face buttons, low internal storage, bluetooth and wifi, microphone and the screen is touch sensitive. unit is lightweight and cheap to make. IS NOT HD.
I am so sorry but cant tell you who I got this info from (but it is good source and good friend). My friend works for a certain screen maker in Japan. If it is fake then it is unintentional, this is the same source who helped me with my 3DS mock-up before it was shown (looked almost PERFECT except put 3D cameras on wrong side) (check out my post history and you will find that.)

Sorry i CANNOT share source.
the black controller on this page is ALMOST spot on identicle http://www.01net.com/editorial/531993/proj...t-le-streaming/

Thought I would re-post this as it seems to have been overlooked.
on the mock up are 3DS nubs but he says they are sticks, also he says four buttons not three.
Looks awesome to me, the photo has a lot of what he describes.

hmmm NGP - SMehNGP... Nintendo really trying to block sales sony's new handheld with this CONSOLE.

 

[lostdwarf]

He is in RnD dept for a screen making(electronics)company I cannot mention.
He has no 'game' knowledge or console making experience. He's just passing on the info he can get away with to someone who does. All this info is widely known within his company but he did say he knows some things he can not tell me yet as only a select few have been told and it would put his job at risk.

 

[nunavat2010]

so... any chance we can get back on topic guys?

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some form of storage/flash/ram or something (i not sure what he means)
bluetooth/wifi

It is not going to be backward compatible like Game Cube games with wii?

I will wait until hackers are done with it, hopefully by 2012 Christmas, like I am waiting for 3DS.

PS: I have not yet installed CFW 3.55 on my ps3 which is on OFW 3.40.

 

[Nollog]

so... any chance we can get back on topic guys?

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some form of storage/flash/ram or something (i not sure what he means)
bluetooth/wifi

It is not going to be backward compatible like Game Cube games with wii?

I will wait until hackers are done with it, hopefully by 2012 Christmas, like I am waiting for 3DS.

PS: I have not yet installed CFW 3.55 on my ps3 which is on OFW 3.40.

She's talking about the controller only.

The console itself has at least one rumour saying "it has solved all possible problems regarding space".

 

[bowser]

I was a bit dismayed when he said resistive screen but DS range has worked brilliantly with them for donkeys so I think it will be fine.

Capacitive screens THE BAD:

They can easily smash and crack and scratch!
are not precise at all (need a whole finger to work) (can buy special stylus but you will break your glass lol)
they dont always work in certain humidity conditions.
Are NOT pressure sensitive (although you can fool them by using surface area)
They are made of glass, use a lot of power, bad choice for a controller that has to be cheap and efficient.
They can smash.
They can smash...
ever tried to draw something on the iphone/ipad/smartphone? fingers are fat (and i have tiny fingers)
are you one of those who swears texting on a smartphone is easy? bull! its a pain in the arse.
They smash.


Resistive benifits:
super precise
can use stylus or any round tipped object (including your fingers) as it registers pressure rather than electricity.
screen is soft and can 'take a hit'
resistive is a lot cheaper
less reflective
simple screen protector will ensure long life as it wont scratch
Nintendo already use these on 3DS making it very concievable it will be a fully functional controller.

Hmm...ok. But resistive touch screens are not accurate at all when using fingers. And most games depend on accuracy. Like I said before, it will be hard to hold the controller in one hand and use a stylus with the other. We won't be able to reach all the buttons. Unless each controller comes with two thumb styli similar to the one for the DSi.

But all this sounds pretty far-fetched and there might not be a screen at all.

 

[34®ß0*3®]

We already had the Wii 2, it was the one without DVD video capabilities.

 

[lostdwarf]

I was a bit dismayed when he said resistive screen but DS range has worked brilliantly with them for donkeys so I think it will be fine.

Capacitive screens THE BAD:

They can easily smash and crack and scratch!
are not precise at all (need a whole finger to work) (can buy special stylus but you will break your glass lol)
they dont always work in certain humidity conditions.
Are NOT pressure sensitive (although you can fool them by using surface area)
They are made of glass, use a lot of power, bad choice for a controller that has to be cheap and efficient.
They can smash.
They can smash...
ever tried to draw something on the iphone/ipad/smartphone? fingers are fat (and i have tiny fingers)
are you one of those who swears texting on a smartphonie is easy? bull! its a pain in the arse.
They smash.


Resistive benifits:
super precise
can use stylus or any round tipped object (including your fingers) as it registers pressure rather than electricity.
screen is soft and can 'take a hit'
resistive is a lot cheaper
less reflective
simple screen protector will ensure long life as it wont scratch
Nintendo already use these on 3DS making it very concievable it will be a fully functional controller.

Hmm...ok. But resistive touch screens are not accurate at all when using fingers. And most games depend on accuracy. Like I said before, it will be hard to hold the controller in one hand and use a stylus with the other. We won't be able to reach all the buttons. Unless each controller comes with two thumb styli similar to the one for the DSi.

But all this sounds pretty far-fetched and there might not be a screen at all.

Yes their is definately a screen.

 

[mysticwaterfall]

My close personal friend who works at a factory contracted by Nintendo to make stuff said it smells like strawberries.

 

[Nebz]

My close personal friend who works at a factory contracted by Nintendo to make stuff said it smells like strawberries.

Sounds delicious

Am I the only one that's really looking forward to an Ethernet port? I'd really love to have one this time....