Homebrew whys old 3ds crappy at emulation but ds and psp is not

[DHall243]

Devs no longer have any motivation to develop emulators for closed systems like 3ds and vita, when there are cheaper phones out there that can emulate up to the dreamcast with a higher screen resolution.

During the PSP times, the system was considered one of the most powerful handheld, since there were no yearly smartphones.

I switched to iOS, yea fuck my life right, i use to play DS emulations on my GS5 all the time

 

[hacksn5s4]

Devs no longer have any motivation to develop emulators for closed systems like 3ds and vita, when there are cheaper phones out there that can emulate up to the dreamcast with a higher screen resolution.

During the PSP times, the system was considered one of the most powerful handheld, since there were no yearly smartphones.

problems with smart phones art no physical buttons and if you use a controller its not like a Handheld. atleast gba injection is a thing

 

[bi388]

Without the cart slot it's not backwards compatible without emulation

Correct me if im wrong but dont gba vc games run natively on 3ds with no emulation? That would mean that they are backwards compatible without emulation.

 

[DHall243]

Correct me if im wrong but dont gba vc games run natively on 3ds with no emulation? That would mean that they are backwards compatible without emulation.

i looked it up, essentially a 3DS is an overclocked DSi, which was an overclocked DS which was an overclocked GBA lol but i guess what i was trying to say was the GBA cartridge would have to be usable to be truely backwards compatible, your still playing the games as a rom with declocked native hardware on VC.

 

[hacksn5s4]

eh so ds roms could be playble but its to hard since nintedo did not make a ds game vc like with gba and dsiware is stored on nand and it would not fit big games and ds rom booting though it does not work idk why

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all nintedo hanhelds from the gba uses arm

 

[Davidosky99]

eh so ds roms could be playble but its to hard since nintedo did not make a ds game vc like with gba and dsiware is stored on nand and it would not fit big games and ds rom booting though it does not work idk why

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all nintedo hanhelds from the gba uses arm

you know that the arm architecture varies from handheld from handheld, right?

 

[Halvorsen]

RAM ISN'T SPEED,
IT'S THE CPU THAT ALWAYS DOES ALL THE HARD WORK, AND THE 3DS HAS ONLY 100~ MHZ CLOCK IN EACH ARM11 CORE.

With one core dedicated to the OS, right?

 

[Ryccardo]

With one core dedicated to the OS, right?

Not really, software can claim up to a certain percentage of the system core!

 

[Selim873]

Neither the PSP or the DS were able to emulate the SNES better than the o3DS did.
The DS had to run the emulator off a flashcard, so the emulation was depending on the power of the flashcard. The best one ever released was the DSTWO+, and even so it was still bad.
PSP had a lot of graphical issues.
The o3DS (with BlargSnes) is the most accurate of all three.

(But none of this matters because the n3DS can run Snes and GBA perfectly)

Even though that's true, Dont forget that those 2 had a LOT more time on the homebrew scene than the 3DS did. It hasn't really been a year yet since the scene completely boomed on 3DS. I remember the PSP went on for YEARS. Hell, I remember using the red screen tiff exploit after I accidentally upgraded, and nowadays we have 6.60 CFW used on the Vita. I think 3DS homebrew will catch up to what PSP had though.

 

[regnad]

You're right, I shouldn't call it bad. But it's still inferior to the o3ds' emulation.


GBA VC Injection.

That's true. In some ways I like SNES on a DSi XL better than a 3DS XL though. The screen's a slightly better fit with the 3DS, but there's something about the DSi XL screen that just looks better with 2D games.

Edit: you mean N3DS, right? N3DS SNES VC is essentially perfect. But RetroArch on O3DS is not as good as a DSTwo in my experience.

GBA on a DSTwo has the tiniest lag though. For 98% of games you don't really notice it. But Rhythm Tengoku is unplayable.

 

[Deltrix18]

Edit: you mean N3DS, right? N3DS SNES VC is essentially perfect. But RetroArch on O3DS is not as good as a DSTwo in my experience

No, I meant o3DS because I feel like BlargSnes is superior to DSTWO, but who am I to judge? I only tried the DSTWO once.

 

[wurstpistole]

Neither the PSP or the DS were able to emulate the SNES better than the o3DS did.
The DS had to run the emulator off a flashcard, so the emulation was depending on the power of the flashcard. The best one ever released was the DSTWO+, and even so it was still bad.
PSP had a lot of graphical issues.
The o3DS (with BlargSnes) is the most accurate of all three.

(But none of this matters because the n3DS can run Snes and GBA perfectly)

Issues on PSP? I had snes9x on my PSP like 8 years ago and even than it ran perfectly, never had a single issue

 

[[^Blark^]]

Issues on PSP? I had snes9x on my PSP like 8 years ago and even than it ran perfectly, never had a single issue

I had about 5-7 PSP's over the course of 3 years back around 2007-2009-10. I have a vita now (3.18) and the emulation is just as I remember it. battle toads is laggy at times and choppy same with every SNES game on PSP unless you tweak settings for each individual game but even then it's not smooth. the best emu's for PSP is gpSP Kai , Snes TTYL or whatever ( basically just a tweaked snes9x version I think) and Homers Rin. thats my opinion...but even the ttyl snes emu had fps issues and stuttering/sound problems. I wouldn't call it perfect.

 

[Swiftloke]

RAM ISN'T SPEED,
IT'S THE CPU THAT ALWAYS DOES ALL THE HARD WORK, AND THE 3DS HAS ONLY 100~ MHZ CLOCK IN EACH ARM11 CORE.

268 megahertz. Though you're way off I won't argue that the o3ds is a potato. That'd be like arguing the sky is blue.
As for you @hacksn5s4, for @Densetsu's sake LEARN SOME ENGLISH. As @Davidosky99 stated it's nigh impossible to comprehend what you're trying to say, much less tell you why you're wrong. Also, please listen to what we're saying. Post after post everyone has been telling you why you can't just have a good old3ds snes or GBA emulator and post after post you continue to ignore us.
GBA injection works perfectly because the 3ds is an extended version of the ds, which is an extended version of the GBA. Injection merely utilizes the very old hardware still in the 3ds, in shorthand.

 

[Davidosky99]

268 megahertz. Though you're way off I won't argue that the o3ds is a potato. That'd be like arguing the sky is blue.
As for you @hacksn5s4, for @Densetsu's sake LEARN SOME ENGLISH. As @Davidosky99 stated it's nigh impossible to comprehend what you're trying to say, much less tell you why you're wrong. Also, please listen to what we're saying. Post after post everyone has been telling you why you can't just have a good old3ds snes or GBA emulator and post after post you continue to ignore us.
GBA injection works perfectly because the 3ds is an extended version of the ds, which is an extended version of the GBA. Injection merely utilizes the very old hardware still in the 3ds, in shorthand.

WELL SAID

 

[dronesplitter]

I think the dev of blargSNES said that the 2D hardware features missing on 3DS (with the current libraries for writing code and the reverse engineering that had been done at that time) made it very hard to get a full speed, accurate emulator. Without hardware acceleration, things just weren't running at a playable speed and this is basically confirmed by Nintendo's decision to make it New 3DS only with their 3DS SNES VC.

With more minds tackling some of those issues, perhaps blargSNES could have ended up even better. I liked it for what it could do, it was nice but now not very useful since the practical solution for most is to upgrade to a New 3DS.