whys old 3ds crappy at emulation but ds and psp is not

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    its werid that the dsi less power ful then the 3ds but it emulates snes and gba a way better idk why and the psps not much more powerful then the old 3ds only like the processors a bit faster and the old 3ds had more ram then it. if you emulate snes and gba in ds mode its not laggy but you need a flashcard for that whats up with 3ds emulation if a less powerful console can emulate snes gba good but the 3ds sucks at it. gba emulaton does not matter because of vc injects but snes does
     
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    Neither the PSP or the DS were able to emulate the SNES better than the o3DS did.
    The DS had to run the emulator off a flashcard, so the emulation was depending on the power of the flashcard. The best one ever released was the DSTWO+, and even so it was still bad.
    PSP had a lot of graphical issues.
    The o3DS (with BlargSnes) is the most accurate of all three.

    (But none of this matters because the n3DS can run Snes and GBA perfectly)
     
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    blarg snes can't run super mario kart thats what needs to be fixed and the sounds off
     
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    I wouldn't call SNES on DSTwo bad at all. It's quite good.
     
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    What do you use for gba emulation?
     
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    You're right, I shouldn't call it bad. But it's still inferior to the o3ds' emulation.

    GBA VC Injection.
     
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    well i tried gpsp core on old 3ds is runs pokemon full speed it onyl lags a bit on tilte screen but if you play a game like mario kart super circuit it lags its not good with the gbas graphical effects
     
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    Inject the game instead of running it through an emulator.
     
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    thats what i did but it would be great if it had cheatsand you could speed up the game

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    most of the emuators are ported that could also cause a diffrence since the thing you ported it from has different hardware
     
  10. DHall243

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    Super mario kart for snes has a special chip in the cartridge which i cant think of now, but it's similar to like say the superfx chips that doom and games like that run. Alot of emulators do not focus on emulation of special chip sets.
     
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    its mode 7 its not specai chip in the cart it does not have mode 7 emulation
     
  12. DHall243

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    Super mario kart has the DSP1 chip, i have a cartridge on the shelf if youd like me to open it.
     
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    The chip was a digital signal processor (dsp) chip.
     
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    isn't the 3ds like backwards compatble with gba games but just does not have a slot since the gba vc run like on real system
     
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    let me just put it simple and say no. The gba really done nothing more then produce video, the carts themselves were what contain the special hardware. There's no sram in the 3DS or the DS for that matter. Without the cart slot it's not backwards compatible without emulation
     
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    First, I got a headache for reading the original post. Please use punctuation and grammar . It's a complete torture to read. In response of your thread emulating GBA thought an emulator is crappy compared to virtual console injection, because in injection it runs natively and in emulators it has to be emulated thus suffering from a cut in speed/accuracy.
    In relation to SNES, games that require an additional chip like doom ,super Mario kart, Yoshi's island and super Mario kart just can't run in an emulator because the o3ds is underpowered. It doesn't matter how many cores the o3ds have or its frequency compared to the SNES when it comes to emulation compared to running natively a device has to have loads of power to manage to run it at full speed/accuracy.
    In relation to running from a flashcard like the scds2 , that flashcard has a dual core processor at a considerable frequency which manages quite well to emulate a game in comparison to emulating it in the o3ds dual core processor (only one core is used in practical)
     
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    the psp can emulate super mario kart and old 3ds has some things over the psp such as more ram the processor is slower but not by a whole lot compared to old 3ds to the new 3ds. old 3ds has 128mbs of ram thats more then the wii
     
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    Someone doesn't understand CPU architecture :^)
     
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    yes and most of emulators for 3ds are ported which is why they run bad
     
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    Damn you sure don't know that platforms with the SAME CPU architecture are more easily emulated than CPUs with different architectures no matter how powerful the CPU or the system is.