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I have a n3ds with 10.2 on it and i have an gateway card, that i cant use. Why cant i take a NAND backup from someone else to downgrade my console? I mean, if its the same system and the same NAND chip it should be alright, or am i wrong?
 

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I have a n3ds with 10.2 on it and i have an gateway card, that i cant use. Why cant i take a NAND backup from someone else to downgrade my console? I mean, if its the same system and the same NAND chip it should be alright, or am i wrong?
You are wrong. I hope this is never possible.
 

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I have a n3ds with 10.2 on it and i have an gateway card, that i cant use. Why cant i take a NAND backup from someone else to downgrade my console? I mean, if its the same system and the same NAND chip it should be alright, or am i wrong?
No. Each console use a different encryption key, each being "burned" in its chip, and as a result only your console can read its NAND.
 

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Is there a way to read these encryption keys and simply replace them?(I know, it sounds too easy, bit im a noob in this category)
 

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There must be a way to find the encryption keys, for example searching for the differences and simmilarities between 2 10.2 NAND backups from 2 different systems(but those must be the same, for example 2 n3ds's with samsung NAND chip)
 

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don't assume this, assume that....
noob shouldn't doubt anything that pro said is true....

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load backup, go ahead.:)
let's see what's gonna happen:lol:
Why do i have to stay a noob for ever? I'm currently trying to change that.
 

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Why do i have to stay a noob for ever? I'm currently trying to change that.
You don't have to, but really, one part of going from noob to pro is accepting that if some people found a kernel exploit and dozens of entrypoints in a highly secure system, then they probably tried something anyone can think of. And it probably turned out to be a "bad" idea, since we have NO way to use a NAND backup on another 3DS than its creator.
 

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Why do i have to stay a noob for ever? I'm currently trying to change that.
Of course u can change that, but your idea is not thoughtful...

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it's like asking the way to load different console's Nintendo3DS folder on a same nand
 

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AES key is encrypted on the NAND and are loaded to the ARM CPU. The key then get decrypted and moved an isolated and seperate section of memory of the CPU unaccessible to the user, it stays there until power is turned off and that point it is erased.

The 3ds uses RSA keys in this case. If you want to understand how the boot order works etc, you can go here:

http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Bootloader
 
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