USB Loader GX: Black screen when loading Wii games

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  1. Cyan

    Cyan GBATemp's lurking knight

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    ah, so you do have some games working fine?

    I didn't have that much issue to make games work, but I didn't play a lot of games using emuNAND. I can confirm these games worked : Cave story, La Mulana, Lost winds. and that's the only I completed.

    how did you make your emuNAND dump ? dumping your console's NAND with USBLoaderGX (using which loader's IOS?), using a FSDumper, or using a clean NAND from modmii?
    Maybe one of that method is the problem.
     
  2. JayCristoe

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    Bad guide strikes again. This was first time I softmodded a Wii. I used a guide that had me use rev 18 for base 57. Just updated to rev 19 and everything that should have worked, now works. For those games that require neek, I haven't yet tried to see if neek will now work but will test later today.

    For anyone who sees this and is getting a black screen on WiiWare, if you followed the Complete Soft Mod Guide, when using NUS Downloader, for IOS 57, make sure you get v5919, NOT v5918 as they say.

    Thanks @Cyan for just hanging in there with me as I worked through it. All of your posts throughout the forum have been a huge help.
     
  3. Cyan

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    Thanks for the info about the IOS57 version. though, if you use d2x installer it'll always download latest version from NUS.

    why would you use cIOS rev18 or rev19? these are very old.
    I'm not sure it's a good idea, unless it's a known working IOS for a specific game.

    for example, some VC N64 will require rev19, if you don't want to use neek.
    but not all VC N64 will work with rev19.

    rev17
    rev18
    rev19
    rev20
    rev21
    rev21 mod d2x v1
    rev21 mod d2x v2
    ...
    rev21 mod d2x v7 (first stable and most compatible version)
    rev21 mod d2x v8 final <-- recommended
    rev21 mod d2x v9 beta
    rev21 mod d2x v10 (same as v8, forced released for vWii)
    rev21 mod d2x v10-alt (same as v9 beta, forced released for vWii)



    the best in my opinion is to use either d2x v8 final base57, or IOS58 while inside USBLoaderGX to do the NAND dump step.
    they might not use the same "FAT32 character conversion" so I'm not sure which one is better. I'd say if you use cIOS emuNAND mode it's best to do the dump with the same cIOS you use to play.
    if you plan to use neek, it's best to do it with IOS58, or even a dump with SimpleFSDumper which was specifically written with neek in mind.
    if what I'm saying is not clear enough :

    some games have filenames with ":" in them, for example one of the Harry potter savegame. when you dump your NAND to FAT32, that character is forbidden and must be changed. the replaced character might not be the same whether you use d2x and USBLoaderGX, or another NAND dumper.
    if you use d2x and it converts the incompatible characters using one method (&htmlcode; for example), and then you use neek which expect them another way (customcode for example), the games will not work, or the savegame will not be found, etc.
     
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  4. JayCristoe

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    I could just be using wrong language here. What I meant was, when I originally soft modded, I used NUS Downloader and obtained IOS 57 --> v5918 originally. When I went in and got v5919, that is what worked. When I install through d2xloader, I did select d2xv10 beta52.

    For emuNAND, I created it through USBLoaderGX. This works well for me for most things, but struggling to get neek to load with that NAND. I will take a look into SimpleFSDumper because there are a few N64 titles I have that would require neek.

    A big problem for idiots like me is that information is scattered everywhere, and some things are outdated.
     
  5. Cyan

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    outdated and scattered is always a problem.
    it's hard to get someone to re-write guides while the scene evolves. I try but it takes too much time.
     
  6. McVinz

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    @Cyan can you help me also? Why is it some other games like mkw, just dance, nsmb loads fine unlike other game didnt (a boy with a blob, house of the dead: overkill)
    My hbc is in latest version. As well as usb loader gx r1271.



    No.
    SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline Double_A R2-D2199 and Nano
    1 ...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).
    2
    3 Region: NTSC-U (original region: JAP)
    4 System Menu 4.3U (v513)
    5 Priiloader installed
    6 Drive date: 12.18.2008
    7 Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
    8
    9 Hollywood v0x21
    10 Console ID: 130950449
    11 Console Type: Wii
    12 Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
    13 Boot2 v4
    14 Found 150 titles.
    15 Found 56 IOS on this console. 6 of them are stubs.
    16
    17 IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
    18 IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
    19 IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    20 IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
    21 IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    22 IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
    23 IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
    24 IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
    25 IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
    26 IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug ES Identify Flash Access NAND Access
    27 IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
    28 IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    29 IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
    30 IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
    31 IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
    32 IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    33 IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
    34 IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
    35 IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
    36 IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
    37 IOS36 (rev 3351): No Patches
    38 IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
    39 IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
    40 IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
    41 IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
    42 IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
    43 IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
    44 IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
    45 IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
    46 IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    47 IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
    48 IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
    49 IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
    50 IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
    51 IOS56 (rev 5661): No Patches
    52 IOS57 (rev 5918): No Patches
    53 IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
    54 IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    55 IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
    56 IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
    57 IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    58 IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    59 IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    60 IOS202[60] (rev 65535 Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    61 IOS222[38] (rev 4 Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug ES Identify NAND Access USB 2.0
    62 IOS223[38+37] (rev 4 Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug ES Identify NAND Access USB 2.0
    63 IOS224[57] (rev 65535 Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    64 IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug ES Identify NAND Access Beer Ticket
    65 IOS245[37] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    66 IOS246[38] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug ES Identify NAND Access
    67 IOS247[53] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    68 IOS248[55] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    69 IOS249[57] (rev 65535 Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    70 IOS250[56] (rev 65535 Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    71 IOS251[58] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    72 IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
    73 BC v6
    74 MIOS v65535
    75 Report generated on 02/24/2019.
     
  7. Cyan

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    I know boy & a blob works, but last time I played it I used IOS56
    try to set IOS250 in the game setting.
    if it works, let me know, so I know some games don't like base57.

    if still doesn't work, try forcing language english (some games don't have other languages, just in case your default language is not english in the console), or video mode force NTSC, etc.

    if still doesn't work, verify the ISO is good (sha1 option in wii backup manager)
     
  8. McVinz

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    @Cyan i tried changing the language. To narrow my problem, the game loads fine until you finish one stage and the game needs to load again (before the loading screen) the game freeze. Another game is murumasa. I can finish one stage but when it needs to load again, the game freeze.
     
  9. Cyan

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    freeze at loading sequence always feels like HDD sleep problem.
    if you spend a lot of time on an area/zone where the game doesn't need to access the disc/data on usb, then the usb firmware stops the spinning engine.
    did you notice any noise differences on your HDD ? does it stop spinning?
     
  10. McVinz

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    I think it stop because the red light on the hdd external turns off. Sometimes it stays on red light instead of blinking red.
     
  11. Cyan

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    check on your hdd manufacturer's website if they have tool to edit or disable the sleep timer.
    if not, you might have to try another HDD's brand, at least to see if it's still freezing or not.
    if it still freeze, maybe it's another problem.
     
  12. McVinz

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    I fixed this problem too.

    First i change my usb enclosure from 3.0 to usb 2.0 and used the y cable
    2nd: i used my syscheck.csv on modmii to update/fix the cIOS

    Now i can play a boy and his blob and murumasa without freeze. I think cIOS 249/57 d2x v8 final and 250/56 d2x v8 final works better than the v10 beta52.
     
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  13. Cyan

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    thank you for telling us :)
    it can help other users.
     
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  14. tswntk

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    Since you installed d2x v8, your console must be a Wii and Wii doesn't normally need a Y-cable unless your HDD is ultra hungry for power. WiiU is another story tho.
     
  15. McVinz

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    All i did was trial and error. I am happy that my problem is now solved.
     
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  17. BilaG

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    cyan bro plzz help me . i want to reconfigure my wii which load all my games. i also want to connect my nintendont to usb gx loader .. so plz bro give me list of software and instructions
    needed ... i depend on u bro...

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    cyan bro this is my whatsapp number +923164708497 plz contact me i want your help i stuck in problems of wii from many months
     
  18. Clutz450

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    @BilaG Not really sure what your problem is but try looking over this guide here (https://wii.guide/) and see if it helps you out at all.
     
  19. Cyan

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    there's no difficulty, nor any need to call or make things private.

    using usbloader is a matter of 3 steps :
    1- install HBC on an updated console. (modmii might be fine for that)
    once you have HBC :
    2- install (or overwrite) your cIOS slot249 with : d2x v8 final, base 57
    3- download and extract usbloadergx to your SD card.
    done

    now use a FAT32 USB HDD (NOT A FLASHDRIVE ! NOT USB KEY!) and wii backup manager to put games on it if you have them on your computer, or insert the disc and choose "install" to copy the disc to usb.

    preferred setup inside usbloadergx :
    settings > update > gametdb. it'll download all game's official title information.
    main menu, press 1 or 2 to open the "cover download" menu, and get a nice looking interface.

    if your HDD is stuck on "initialization" screen, go to settings > loader's settings > loader's IOS : change the value to 58 and reboot.
     
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  20. BilaG

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    bro i only have wbfs format usb flash drive 32gb with some games but only few are working
    can plz recommended me perfect setting (like: ios, usb losder) for running all games
     
  21. dbrosa

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    Gentlemen, I'm facing similar issue of Black Screens and Console's halt. I guess I've already read all the 15 pages of this post and I've tried all the suggestions, but still having problems. I have my original help request post here: help-cant-load-any-game-from-usb-hard-drive-cfg-loader-halts-on-ios-248-ios-reload-blocked.539923/#post-8660903. Unfortunately as a new member I can't attach the link for the post, so I'll copy it down here to give you guys (in special to @Cyan ) one idea of my situation:


    "...
    Recently I've updated my Wii using ModMii; I've followed all the steps flawless but since I did it I'm not able to load any game from my USB hard drive.

    The problem comes with USB loader GX: whenever I try to boot a game from my USB drive it seems to boot normally but halts the Wii just after. The only way to get out of this black screen is by pressing Power button for some seconds.

    As I have the CFG loader from the ModMii installation. I've tried it to, but using CFG I still have the Wii halted during the loading procedure at this point:

    IOS(248).......
    IOS Reload: Blocked
    Loading ................

    As in the other loader, the only way to get out of this black screen is by pressing Power button for some seconds.


    My syscheck is :

    SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
    ...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).
    Region: NTSC-U
    System Menu 4.3U (v513)
    Priiloader installed
    Drive date: 02.13.2007
    Homebrew Channel 1.1.0 running on IOS58
    Hollywood v0x11
    Console ID: blablabla
    Console Type: Wii
    Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
    Boot2 v4
    Found 91 titles.
    Found 53 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stubs.
    IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
    IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
    IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
    IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
    IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
    IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
    IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
    IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
    IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
    IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
    IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
    IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
    IOS247[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS248[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS251[58] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
    BC v6
    MIOS v10
    Report generated on 06/02/2019.


    Originally I had d2x-v6 for IOS247[57] and IOS248[56] and d2x-v8final for IOS249[56] and IOS250[57]. In another forum a guy solved his problem by updating those IOS for the latest v10 so I've tried it too, but without success

    I'm using a 250GB external USB Hard Drive from Western Digital... It's formated as FAT32 in just one partition. The games were transferd to the HD using the WiiBackupManager_Build78 tool.
    ..."

    I've installed d2x-v10 beta 52 on slot 251 base58 as I've read in previous posts. Additionally I've tried to configure USB Loader GX to load from slots 249, 250 and 251... All failed as before...

    I'm really in trouble as I've just bought the Wii for my kids as they were "claiming" for it, and now all the games I've managed to get to them are not working anymore...

    Please, if someone could HELP I'll be VERY THANKFUL !!!
     
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