Trojan farce

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  1. Ace Gunman
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    So, I did an obligatory virus/malware scan, which I've been doing since my previous virus scare. And low and behold, I find a trojan. Not much of a trojan, mind you, and it was taken out swiftly and with ease, but a trojan nonetheless. So I suppose my question is how is this possible?

    I'm running Firefox 3 with its built-in fishing and malware dealies, running the ad-block and flashblock extensions, 3rd party cookies turned off, and not frequenting sites of ill-repute. I'm also running Spybot: Search & Destroy and Spyware Blaster to block negative cookies and websites/etc. Plus ZoneAlarm for the inbound/outbound access (with nothing allowed that shouldn't be).

    I have Avast running on full protection, it's literally deep-scanning every file I touch on a second by second basis. While SpywareGuard, BoClean, and TeaTimer run by its side (and they're fully compatible when running together). All of them have been fully updated. And I haven't been downloading many files outside of safe program updates.

    How could it slip through those defenses? And/or what else could I be doing?
     
    #1 Oct 4, 2008
  2. AeroHex

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    most trojans work like this

    they look like a program installer or program and when you click ok or cancel it will activate

    trojans bypass internet anti viruses all the time thats why you should keep your antivirus updated
     
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  3. Trolly

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    Meh, it happens. All I have is AVG free, and I download loads of stuff (even stuff that could be seen as iffy in the virus department), but all I've got is one trojan downloader outbreak in 6 months.
    Don't see the point in maintaining so many anti-virus programs at once myself.
    Then again, better safe than sorry.
     
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  4. Diablo1123

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    I have no anti virus because AVG was screwing something of mine, but I forgot what

    Course still have stuff like Firefox + NoScript + Adblocker Plus
     
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  5. UltraMagnus

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    the only way to avoid virii is to use an OS that can't be effected by them like linux.
     
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  6. DarkRey

    DarkRey still transfoooorming.... with sum lags!

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    Get avg is really gud.

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    stop downloading gay porn
     
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  7. Trolly

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    [​IMG]
     
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  8. da_head

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    wth? how many antivirus' programs do u have?!? i just have firefox 3 stuff and avg. and i do sum pretty dangerous stuff, and my comp is squeaky clean (i think xD).
     
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    Do other people have access to your computer? That could also be a factor. Little Timmy might be downloading all sorts of dangerous PC-killing junk behind your back.

    Also. Is your computer running from its very first boot up, or have you reformatted and reinstalled your OS? I know that many computers nowadays come with spyware and other crap preinstalled, so maybe it is picking up on that?

    Failing everything else, it could be a false positive.
     
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  10. elenar

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    Keep in mind that the heuristic detection algorithms used by most AV software will recognize and alert you to anything that even works in a way that could be like a trojan.

    Basic layman's definition of trojan - malware that alters code in another object by disguising itself as a non-malware entity.

    Key generators, encryption software, and decision-making trees (a faux A.I.) are all things that i've seen trip anti-virus software.

    The makers of AV's tend to play by the "better safe than sorry, so let's just alert the user if it even SEEMS like it COULD be a virus" rules. False positives can and will occur.

    Which, of course, is not to say that you didn't legitimately get a trojan. These things just happen.
     
    #10 Oct 5, 2008
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    I know! I know a little kid and he asked me why his DS ROM was a .exe and like 1MB [​IMG] .
     
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