Background- mahjong is a fairly popular game in Japan but what the west knows as mahjong is properly known as mahjong solitaire or Shanghai; mahjong solitaire is a tile matching game where mahjong proper has the closest equivalent in gin rummy. To the best of my knowledge, it certainly is the operating assumption going into this, all games outside Japan (unless Korea got in on the action but a quick scan says no) that claim to sport mahjong are in fact the solitaire variety which is fun but not what I am and if several forum posts over the years many others as well are after.
Most should be playable (assuming you know the rules which you can easily learn elsewhere) with a minimal knowledge of Japanese or none at all but this may be one of the few occasions where a menu or minimal translation will do wonders. The trouble comes in the Japan has several to choose from and I want to pick the best one in terms of options and AI- if it turns out Simple Series* vol 44- the Gal Mahjong is the superior version I will hack that (you ask me what the best GBA chess game is and I will tell you Dexter's lab chess and I have several similar examples for other puzzle games). I am also open to the option of a total conversion (think Elite beat agents vs Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan) if it does turn out to be a silly version that sports the best engine if for no other reason than I am not aware of such a translation happening in the ROM hacking world.
*the simple series, 2500 series, minna no series and other such series often have awesome versions (minna no soft tetris was the best commercial tetris version on the GBA by a very long way) so certainly do not dismiss them outright- my next steps might actually be to comb through said collections properly and pull up anything that wants translating.
Step 1: Pick a game that wants translating as we have several options. I pulled all the games with mahjong in the title and did a scan of the others for those that might also feature it. Should there be a far superior version as yet undumped do speak up and should I have missed one also speak up.
I am not a purist by any means and I do not really mind which version of the rules we end with (there are some subtle differences between parts of various parts of China, Japan and elsewhere but to the best of my knowledge they are all Japanese rules with Japanese tilesets or variations on said tilesets (same "values" but different characters/illustrations)). Equally mahjong is not a game I am brilliant at/have much strategical knowledge of so my opinions on hard AI might want to be taken with a pinch of salt.
I am not so concerned about wifi and general wifi play (some games had a minor "pictochat" type affair built in) but some of those did have wifi versions made of them which will get translated in preference to their non wifi cousins (if the backport is simple enough I might go for it though). Equally I will probably not want to translate any download play components if for no other reason than flash carts are cheap and if I did do such a thing it would only work on a flashme modded DS.
Generating the above also saw me go through every Japanese game and it turns there are loads of things very much worthy of a translation and especially on the puzzle game and light adventure game front but that is a different matter for a different day.
I can do the hacking side of things (once we narrow down the list a bit I will pull them apart and see how they work) although I am quite happy to have some help if someone wants an in to translation hacking but translation might be tricky and those translating should probably know that puzzle games have a long history of kicking most of their text to pictures rather than text one can dump into a file and edit. Unless we end up translating one of those story and minigame sporting versions (unlikely) I do not imagine the need for a massive team as with most RPGs although should the right project manager come along room could be made- my favoured model for all this will be open information (specs for the rom and any formats within) but closed patch making and translation.
List of possibilities
I do not think the Japanese version of Club house games/42 all time classics had a proper version of mahjong but I am willing to be surprised (there were apparently a few differences). Again there was also an original release and a wifi version later. Also I do like the Club house games/42 all time classics title but the versions they included had minimal rule variations (more than some, less than a proper dedicated title).
I genuinely have no idea which is going to be the best or even top ? other than as a rule of thumb most collections of games tend not to have as many options (might rule out the table games). Tie in games are a tricky one (Gundam tie in games are frequently top notch) but a few tie in and such games here (thinking the likes of gal mahjong and Chuukana Janshi Tenhoo Painyan Remix) are not likely to end up as best candidates for a translation if for no other reason than they are probably going to need a lot of work to do. Again my main criteria are going to be best AI and best ability to fiddle with rules with a heavy dose of best UI as well (something touchscreen driven but done well and with fallback to buttons if possible) but I am fairly flexible on any one of those. Edit- I should also state I am operating under the assumption those playing this will roughly know the rules so a proper basics to mahjong hustler tutorial is not an essential (indeed the tutorial will probably be one of the main casualties in the menu/basics translation idea).
0046- Yakuman DS
Linking up the wifi version (0555 in the numbers)
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1179/
http://gbatemp.net/t...025-yakuman-ds/ (it came originally in the massive releases floods).
http://www.nintendo....x.html?link=txt (Nintendo's attempt at a game, I would not get too excited about Mario being on the cover though).
0104- Mahjong Taikai
http://gbatemp.net/t...hjong-taikai-j/
0217- Simple DS Series Vol.1 - The Mahjong
http://gbatemp.net/t...ies-volume-1-j/
0245- Gundam Mahjong DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0819/
0290- Table Game Spirits
Not entirely sure about this one and it does appear to have a breakout clone, some card games, shogi and some other stuff.
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0870/
0310- Minna no Mahjong DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0890/
0315- Nihon Pro Mahjong Kishikai Kanshuu Pro Ni Naru - Mahjong DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0895/
0731- Mahjong Fight Club DS: Wi-Fi Taiou
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1365/
So I do not forget/get questions there is also a v1.1
http://gbatemp.net/t...aiou-v01-japan/
0750- Table Spirits 2
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1384/
Seems to be the wrong boxart
http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000KN6A42/
0797- Mahjong Haoh DS Special
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1439/
1183- Chuukana Janshi Tenhoo Painyan Remix
This one apparently rocks some catgirls.
http://gbatemp.net/t...an-remix-japan/
1205- Jan Sangoku Musou (Dynasty warriors spinoff?)
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1205/
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/ds/jmusou/
1314- 1500 DS Spirits Vol. 1: Mahjong
http://gbatemp.net/t...-mahjong-japan/
1454- Wi-Fi Taiou: Gensen Table Game DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-game-ds-japan/
http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000P9G212/
1881- Taka Reet Ura Mahjong Retsuden Mukoubuchi ~ Goburei Last desu ne ~ (awesome cover for this game)
http://gbatemp.net/t...burei-last-des/
1921- Super Lite 2500 Custom Mahjong
http://gbatemp.net/t...-mahjong-japan/
1949- Simple DS Series Vol. 30: The Table Game
http://gbatemp.net/t...ble-game-japan/
http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000Y2NHRM/
2051- 1500 DS Spirits Vol 9 Futari Uchi Mahjong (this appears to be the two player version)
http://gbatemp.net/t...-mahjong-japan/
2709- Simple DS Series Vol. 44: The Gal Mahjong
Mahjong but featuring anime girls in bikinis and minigames with said girls- on second thoughts it had better be an awesome engine for it to get translated in preference to the others.
http://gbatemp.net/t...-mahjong-japan/
3280- Akko de Pon Ikasama Hourouki (probably a better effort than most western singers that get games manage)
http://gbatemp.net/t...hourouki-japan/
4072- Mahjong Navi DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-navi-ds-japan/
4073- Table Game spirits victory
http://gbatemp.net/t...-victory-japan/ (not sure about this one)
http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000P9G212/
4526- 1500 DS Spirits: Mahjong V
http://gbatemp.net/t...ahjong-v-japan/
4839- Mahjong Haoh DS - Dankyuu Battle
http://gbatemp.net/t...ahjong-v-japan/
Not sure
1561- Sansuu Puzzle de Migaku: Gakken Otona no Shikou Sense (most of the games with gakken in the title are educational)
http://gbatemp.net/t...ou-sense-japan/
3445- Dragon Dance Edit- apparently is a mahjong solitaire/Shanghai game but with a few twists.
http://gbatemp.net/t...on-dance-japan/
Definitely mahjong solitaire/Shanghai
0241- Shanghai
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0814/
5231- Shanghai DS 2
http://gbatemp.net/t...ghai-ds2-japan/
To save others the hassle of removing links the simple list
Most should be playable (assuming you know the rules which you can easily learn elsewhere) with a minimal knowledge of Japanese or none at all but this may be one of the few occasions where a menu or minimal translation will do wonders. The trouble comes in the Japan has several to choose from and I want to pick the best one in terms of options and AI- if it turns out Simple Series* vol 44- the Gal Mahjong is the superior version I will hack that (you ask me what the best GBA chess game is and I will tell you Dexter's lab chess and I have several similar examples for other puzzle games). I am also open to the option of a total conversion (think Elite beat agents vs Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan) if it does turn out to be a silly version that sports the best engine if for no other reason than I am not aware of such a translation happening in the ROM hacking world.
*the simple series, 2500 series, minna no series and other such series often have awesome versions (minna no soft tetris was the best commercial tetris version on the GBA by a very long way) so certainly do not dismiss them outright- my next steps might actually be to comb through said collections properly and pull up anything that wants translating.
Step 1: Pick a game that wants translating as we have several options. I pulled all the games with mahjong in the title and did a scan of the others for those that might also feature it. Should there be a far superior version as yet undumped do speak up and should I have missed one also speak up.
I am not a purist by any means and I do not really mind which version of the rules we end with (there are some subtle differences between parts of various parts of China, Japan and elsewhere but to the best of my knowledge they are all Japanese rules with Japanese tilesets or variations on said tilesets (same "values" but different characters/illustrations)). Equally mahjong is not a game I am brilliant at/have much strategical knowledge of so my opinions on hard AI might want to be taken with a pinch of salt.
I am not so concerned about wifi and general wifi play (some games had a minor "pictochat" type affair built in) but some of those did have wifi versions made of them which will get translated in preference to their non wifi cousins (if the backport is simple enough I might go for it though). Equally I will probably not want to translate any download play components if for no other reason than flash carts are cheap and if I did do such a thing it would only work on a flashme modded DS.
Generating the above also saw me go through every Japanese game and it turns there are loads of things very much worthy of a translation and especially on the puzzle game and light adventure game front but that is a different matter for a different day.
I can do the hacking side of things (once we narrow down the list a bit I will pull them apart and see how they work) although I am quite happy to have some help if someone wants an in to translation hacking but translation might be tricky and those translating should probably know that puzzle games have a long history of kicking most of their text to pictures rather than text one can dump into a file and edit. Unless we end up translating one of those story and minigame sporting versions (unlikely) I do not imagine the need for a massive team as with most RPGs although should the right project manager come along room could be made- my favoured model for all this will be open information (specs for the rom and any formats within) but closed patch making and translation.
List of possibilities
I do not think the Japanese version of Club house games/42 all time classics had a proper version of mahjong but I am willing to be surprised (there were apparently a few differences). Again there was also an original release and a wifi version later. Also I do like the Club house games/42 all time classics title but the versions they included had minimal rule variations (more than some, less than a proper dedicated title).
I genuinely have no idea which is going to be the best or even top ? other than as a rule of thumb most collections of games tend not to have as many options (might rule out the table games). Tie in games are a tricky one (Gundam tie in games are frequently top notch) but a few tie in and such games here (thinking the likes of gal mahjong and Chuukana Janshi Tenhoo Painyan Remix) are not likely to end up as best candidates for a translation if for no other reason than they are probably going to need a lot of work to do. Again my main criteria are going to be best AI and best ability to fiddle with rules with a heavy dose of best UI as well (something touchscreen driven but done well and with fallback to buttons if possible) but I am fairly flexible on any one of those. Edit- I should also state I am operating under the assumption those playing this will roughly know the rules so a proper basics to mahjong hustler tutorial is not an essential (indeed the tutorial will probably be one of the main casualties in the menu/basics translation idea).
0046- Yakuman DS
Linking up the wifi version (0555 in the numbers)
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1179/
http://gbatemp.net/t...025-yakuman-ds/ (it came originally in the massive releases floods).
http://www.nintendo....x.html?link=txt (Nintendo's attempt at a game, I would not get too excited about Mario being on the cover though).
0104- Mahjong Taikai
http://gbatemp.net/t...hjong-taikai-j/
0217- Simple DS Series Vol.1 - The Mahjong
http://gbatemp.net/t...ies-volume-1-j/
0245- Gundam Mahjong DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0819/
0290- Table Game Spirits
Not entirely sure about this one and it does appear to have a breakout clone, some card games, shogi and some other stuff.
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0870/
0310- Minna no Mahjong DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0890/
0315- Nihon Pro Mahjong Kishikai Kanshuu Pro Ni Naru - Mahjong DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0895/
0731- Mahjong Fight Club DS: Wi-Fi Taiou
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1365/
So I do not forget/get questions there is also a v1.1
http://gbatemp.net/t...aiou-v01-japan/
0750- Table Spirits 2
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1384/
Seems to be the wrong boxart
http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000KN6A42/
0797- Mahjong Haoh DS Special
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1439/
1183- Chuukana Janshi Tenhoo Painyan Remix
This one apparently rocks some catgirls.
http://gbatemp.net/t...an-remix-japan/
1205- Jan Sangoku Musou (Dynasty warriors spinoff?)
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-1205/
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/ds/jmusou/
1314- 1500 DS Spirits Vol. 1: Mahjong
http://gbatemp.net/t...-mahjong-japan/
1454- Wi-Fi Taiou: Gensen Table Game DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-game-ds-japan/
http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000P9G212/
1881- Taka Reet Ura Mahjong Retsuden Mukoubuchi ~ Goburei Last desu ne ~ (awesome cover for this game)
http://gbatemp.net/t...burei-last-des/
1921- Super Lite 2500 Custom Mahjong
http://gbatemp.net/t...-mahjong-japan/
1949- Simple DS Series Vol. 30: The Table Game
http://gbatemp.net/t...ble-game-japan/
http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000Y2NHRM/
2051- 1500 DS Spirits Vol 9 Futari Uchi Mahjong (this appears to be the two player version)
http://gbatemp.net/t...-mahjong-japan/
2709- Simple DS Series Vol. 44: The Gal Mahjong
Mahjong but featuring anime girls in bikinis and minigames with said girls- on second thoughts it had better be an awesome engine for it to get translated in preference to the others.
http://gbatemp.net/t...-mahjong-japan/
3280- Akko de Pon Ikasama Hourouki (probably a better effort than most western singers that get games manage)
http://gbatemp.net/t...hourouki-japan/
4072- Mahjong Navi DS
http://gbatemp.net/t...-navi-ds-japan/
4073- Table Game spirits victory
http://gbatemp.net/t...-victory-japan/ (not sure about this one)
http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000P9G212/
4526- 1500 DS Spirits: Mahjong V
http://gbatemp.net/t...ahjong-v-japan/
4839- Mahjong Haoh DS - Dankyuu Battle
http://gbatemp.net/t...ahjong-v-japan/
Not sure
1561- Sansuu Puzzle de Migaku: Gakken Otona no Shikou Sense (most of the games with gakken in the title are educational)
http://gbatemp.net/t...ou-sense-japan/
3445- Dragon Dance Edit- apparently is a mahjong solitaire/Shanghai game but with a few twists.
http://gbatemp.net/t...on-dance-japan/
Definitely mahjong solitaire/Shanghai
0241- Shanghai
http://gbatemp.net/t...-ndstitle-0814/
5231- Shanghai DS 2
http://gbatemp.net/t...ghai-ds2-japan/
To save others the hassle of removing links the simple list
0046- Yakuman DS
0104- Mahjong Taikai
0217- Simple DS Series Vol.1 - The Mahjong
0245- Gundam Mahjong DS
0290- Table Game Spirits
0310- Minna no Mahjong DS
0315- Nihon Pro Mahjong Kishikai Kanshuu Pro Ni Naru - Mahjong DS
0731- Mahjong Fight Club DS: Wi-Fi Taiou
0750- Table Spirits 2
0797- Mahjong Haoh DS Special
1183- Chuukana Janshi Tenhoo Painyan Remix
1205- Jan Sangoku Musou
1314- 1500 DS Spirits Vol. 1: Mahjong
1454- Wi-Fi Taiou: Gensen Table Game DS
1881- Taka Reet Ura Mahjong Retsuden Mukoubuchi ~ Goburei Last desu ne ~
1921- Super Lite 2500 Custom Mahjong
1949- Simple DS Series Vol. 30: The Table Game
2051- 1500 DS Spirits Vol 9 Futari Uchi Mahjong
2709- Simple DS Series Vol. 44: The Gal Mahjong
3280- Akko de Pon Ikasama Hourouki
4072- Mahjong Navi DS
4073- Table Game spirits victory
4526- 1500 DS Spirits: Mahjong V
4839- Mahjong Haoh DS - Dankyuu Battle
0104- Mahjong Taikai
0217- Simple DS Series Vol.1 - The Mahjong
0245- Gundam Mahjong DS
0290- Table Game Spirits
0310- Minna no Mahjong DS
0315- Nihon Pro Mahjong Kishikai Kanshuu Pro Ni Naru - Mahjong DS
0731- Mahjong Fight Club DS: Wi-Fi Taiou
0750- Table Spirits 2
0797- Mahjong Haoh DS Special
1183- Chuukana Janshi Tenhoo Painyan Remix
1205- Jan Sangoku Musou
1314- 1500 DS Spirits Vol. 1: Mahjong
1454- Wi-Fi Taiou: Gensen Table Game DS
1881- Taka Reet Ura Mahjong Retsuden Mukoubuchi ~ Goburei Last desu ne ~
1921- Super Lite 2500 Custom Mahjong
1949- Simple DS Series Vol. 30: The Table Game
2051- 1500 DS Spirits Vol 9 Futari Uchi Mahjong
2709- Simple DS Series Vol. 44: The Gal Mahjong
3280- Akko de Pon Ikasama Hourouki
4072- Mahjong Navi DS
4073- Table Game spirits victory
4526- 1500 DS Spirits: Mahjong V
4839- Mahjong Haoh DS - Dankyuu Battle