godsakes said:
DownSince86 said:
Anyway my point is if you take care of it like your supposed to you should have few problems with a 360. Yes part of it is Microsoft's fault because the thing is prone to overheating but EVERYONE should know this by now and everyone should take precautions to prevent it from happening.
what a load of nonesense
if microsoft wishes to make a console which can only stand operating conditions inside a fridge they really shouldn't have marketed their console outside of iceland.
You know as well as I do that it isn't THAT bad. What about the PS2 and the disc read error problem? Just about everyone I know had that at one point or another but you rarely heard people bash Sony over the issue. People hate the xbox because they hate Microsoft for whatever reason, simple as that.
I don't really understand a lot of what you guys say. You claim modern consoles should hold up to wear and tear like the SNES, Genesis, and the other cartridge based systems but you forget that these consoles HAD NO MOVING PARTS WHAT SO EVER. They didn't have CPUs and GPUs that would fail because a fan gave up or the works got gunked up by dust because you thought it was a good idea to leave the thing in a room that needs a good dusting. They were built to be children's toys from the start and used second rate components as to reduce the price. There was also less reason to rush the product to stores as the market was not the same as the one that exists today.
Sure Microsoft is a fault for some design defects but they have attempted to fix them over the years. They've repaired consoles they legally didn't have to and in a lot of cases sent brand new ones to customers. They've revised the hardware numerous times... They know that they have to keep their customers happy. BTW if the hardware problems are really so bad how come "broken" consoles are begin bought on ebay left and right? It is pretty easy to fix most issues with the hardware if you know how. I've personally sold consoles to people in Russia who repair and re-sell them in their country and they pay huge sums of money just in shipping ($600 USD on shipping alone in some cases). There is obviously a demand for the platform.
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That may be but a console should survive that
No piece of hardware is designed to be mistreated like that. If your jamming wired controllers in to the usb port the wrong way, dropping the thing on the ground all of the time because the bag in your hand slipped, or allowing a guy who smokes 24/7 to run the thing for 12+ hours everyday in a dusty room your going to have problems at some point.
Have you ever worked on a smokers computer? Even in the cleanest of houses the inside of that thing will be caked with dust. Now imagine that going on inside of a console that is known to be prone to overheating in the wrong environment.
An Xbox 360 (and PS3 for that matter) is closer to a computer than it is to an old school console. Even the Wii is like that with all the moving parts...how many threads have you seen on this site about broken disc drives and overheating because of wiiconnect24?
IMO it all goes back to Microsoft bashing for the most part. Yes there are 360s out there that have broken for no good reason but it happens a lot less often these days than it did with the models that were available at launch and it doesn't occur any more often than it does with things like HDTVs. Sometimes it takes a few revisions to get things right and as long as you do your existing customers right it shouldn't be a problem. At the same time it isn't Microsoft's responsibility to fix something that was broken because of the customer's mistreatment of the hardware.