The situation in Ukraine...

[Kurt91]

Because we have no other means of putting pressure on Putin. He's got hidden resources and dark money stashed all over the world. It's kind of inevitable that an amoral dictator who's allowed to declare war unilaterally is going to cause problems for his country eventually, so the preferable outcome would've been a revolution the moment he dropped the facade and declared that Russia was no longer a democracy. Second best time to give him the boot and/or put a bullet between his eyes would be right now.

This is what bugs me, because I see absolutely no way for some of the boycotts to do anything useful other than making the innocent Russian citizens miserable. For one example, how does Disney refusing to release any current films in Russia do anything against Putin specifically instead of merely taking something away from the Russian citizens who had absolutely nothing to do with any of this? I doubt that not being able to see "Turning Red" is going to do any damage to the Russian government itself, but upset a lot of children and Disney fans in Russia who had nothing to do with anything.

I can understand wanting to show support for Ukraine during all of this, but a lot of it seems to be all show (whether it's a charitable view of "What else can we specifically do" or the cynical view of "Look at us! We're helping! Buy our stuff because we're good people!") and a lot of innocent people in Russia wind up suffering in pointless ways for things they didn't have any say in.

 

[Xzi]

This is what bugs me, because I see absolutely no way for some of the boycotts to do anything useful other than making the innocent Russian citizens miserable. For one example, how does Disney refusing to release any current films in Russia do anything against Putin specifically instead of merely taking something away from the Russian citizens who had absolutely nothing to do with any of this? I doubt that not being able to see "Turning Red" is going to do any damage to the Russian government itself, but upset a lot of children and Disney fans in Russia who had nothing to do with anything.

I can understand wanting to show support for Ukraine during all of this, but a lot of it seems to be all show (whether it's a charitable view of "What else can we specifically do" or the cynical view of "Look at us! We're helping! Buy our stuff because we're good people!") and a lot of innocent people in Russia wind up suffering in pointless ways for things they didn't have any say in.

It increases the likelihood of people protesting the war in various ways, even if they might've supported Putin in every other venture up to now. And it has had some effect: multiple Russian millionaires/billionaires have voiced opposition to the invasion because they can't enjoy the same level of luxury they're used to with a collapsed economy.

Also...it's kinda hard to sympathize with Russian citizens over not being able to watch Netflix for a while, when a few hundred miles away Ukrainian citizens are being slaughtered like cattle. The sanctions make it clear that Russia cannot go on living as normal so long as Ukraine can't either.

 

[XDel]

What have we here...

https://odysee.com/@RealNewsforever...-Ukraine:6?r=FU7d4iTGVxtWvTgb2vkC2YLbXFPVni8K

 

[XDel]

From Russia with Love: "No Coke, No Junk Food, No Gas, A OK!"

https://odysee.com/@AussieFighter:8...tions!-😁:3?r=FU7d4iTGVxtWvTgb2vkC2YLbXFPVni8K

 

[Coto]

I know he was in the KGB, which in itself is very suspect, but what I am pointing out is that he is part of the World Economic Forum and their self proclaimed Davos Agenda, aka Great Reset. That is what all of this is about. One World Governance from the U.N., global police in the form of NATO, mote censorship, less rights, less privacy, less individuality, less free will, more taxes, higher prices, more depression, mass suicide, and baby murder, you name it, you got it!

You're correct about that:

Why Putin was in Latin America

On July 11, Putin began a weeklong trip to Brazil, Argentina, Nicaragua and Cuba, which included attending the sixth BRICS’ summit and the launch of the organization’s New Development Bank.

World Economic Forum site:

The New Development Bank (NDB), formerly known as the BRICS Development Bank, is a multilateral development bank operated by the BRICS states (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa). The bank aims to foster greater financial and development cooperation among the five emerging markets.

What does mean for the average joe? Means Socialist countries (by having socialist regimes or next to) are working and financing United Nations/China on a global scale to take over entire countries. (source)

 

[KuntilanakMerah]

i'm sure russians have enough food stock since most asian country is not followed western propaganda to boycott russia, they will trade oil / gas for food

 

[Deleted member 194275]

i'm sure russians have enough food stock since most asian country is not followed western propaganda to boycott russia, they will trade oil / gas for food

There are half dozen countries under US embargo, none of their leaders lost their position, even with borderline total embargo like Cuba. So the common Russian guy is fucked right now, Putin is not.

 

[djpannda]

i'm sure russians have enough food stock since most asian country is not followed western propaganda to boycott russia, they will trade oil / gas for food

Lol potato life, USSR with all the advantages and disadvantages, surprising both are just only Potato

 

[Xzi]

From Russia with Love: "No Coke, No Junk Food, No Gas, A OK!"

Well yeah, of course they're gonna pick the things with the smallest impact to make light of. What they can't make light of is potentially running out of coffee and tobacco, neither of which grows in Russia. Their whole military would probably end up turning to bath salts and eating each others' faces.

 

[XDel]

Well yeah, of course they're gonna pick the things with the smallest impact to make light of. What they can't make light of is potentially running out of coffee and tobacco, neither of which grows in Russia. Their whole military would probably end up turning to bath salts and eating each others' faces.

Ha ha, maybe, I mean during Communist rule families had to cook up their new borns to make it by, so ya never know, they are determined people.

 

[djpannda]

There are half dozen countries under US embargo, none of their leaders lost their position, even with borderline total embargo like Cuba. So the common Russian guy is fucked right now, Putin is not.

Yes but your talking bout US embargo… let’s take Cuba, it only has A Us Sanction.. I have been to Cuban guess what 99% of the world does not have sanctions.. you have a butt load of rich Europeans,Asian, South American and Canadian tourist and products ( the lack of product is really the fault of The communist government wanting to control people,NOT THE SANCTIONS.

Russia has sanctions from USA Canada, All of Europe, Australia, Japan … you know 75 % of the $$ in the world.

There is no comparison… it’s at the point no western bank will work with them.. Hell China is refusing to work with Russian publicly in some areas…

You are looking at Post -Apocalyptic Russian in 2-3 months (Mad Max style) the Only thing they will have is GAS..

 

[Xzi]

Ha ha, maybe, I mean during Communist rule families had to cook up their new borns to make it by, so ya never know, they are determined people.

I was more drawing a parallel with the third reich and their meth habit, but sure, I guess we can pretend your thing happened too.

 

[XDel]

I was more drawing a parallel with the third reich and their meth habit, but sure, I guess we can pretend your thing happened too.

NAZI's were evil too though.... WAAAAAYYYYYYY more died under Communist rule. And yes, ever hear of the bread lines? Well because their was such a shortage on food (prolly shouldn't kill your farmers and put inexperienced idiots in charge), it was not uncommon for families to cook up the baby mother just delivered in the home...
...because you know, lack of cozy little hospitals at ever street corner.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Yes but your talking bout US embargo… let’s take Cuba, it only has A Us Sanction.. I have been to Cuban guess what 99% of the world does not have sanctions.. you have a butt load of rich Europeans,Asian, South American and Canadian tourist and products ( the lack of product is really the fault of The communist government wanting to control people,NOT THE SANCTIONS.

Russia has sanctions from USA Canada, All of Europe, Australia, Japan … you know 75 % of the $$ in the world.

There is no comparison… it’s at the point no western bank will work with them.. Hell China is refusing to work with Russian publicly in some areas…

You are looking at Post -Apocalyptic Russian in 2-3 months (Mad Max style) the Only thing they will have is GAS..

If you trade with Cuba, you can't trade with USA, so everyone is inside the embargo, it's much more rarsh than you speak. If Sony decide to sell a playstation to Fidel's nephew, the whole Sony group is banned from USA. This goes for every single company in the world. So Cuba only trades with companies that have not intention to trade with USA, aka nobody.

You said tourism, but if I decide go there, chances are huge that I never will get a Visa for USA again (and those expire every 5 years). So in practice, tourists there are from countries that USA does not require visa (western Europe, Japan, and few others).

Don't treat the Cuban embargo as light, because it is not. It's much more a crime than a light embargo.

 

[Xzi]

NAZI's were evil too though.... WAAAAAYYYYYYY more died under Communist rule.

We can just put it all under the umbrella of victims of authoritarism/dictatorship. Economic systems become pretty darn irrelevant when it's just one megalomaniac making all the decisions for your entire country.

And yes, ever hear of the bread lines? Well because their was such a shortage on food (prolly shouldn't kill your farmers and put inexperienced idiots in charge), it was not uncommon for families to cook up the baby mother just delivered in the home...

Bread lines yes, that's well documented. Cannabalism of family members...not so much. Most people would rather starve to death, and that applies to peoples of any nation.

 

[XDel]

We can just put it all under the umbrella of victims of authoritarism/dictatorship. Economic systems become pretty darn irrelevant when it's just one megalomaniac making all the decisions for your entire country.


Bread lines yes, that's well documented. Cannabalism of family members...not so much. Most people would rather starve to death, and that applies to peoples of any nation.

Aghh, so you are pro-commy then? Meaning you trust in mankind to be honest and fair and divide things up equally without screwing anyone over... riiiiiggghhhhttt. That's always worked in the past. Communism can only work within a small family or community or what ever, no matter what the government, if it don't have legal and enforced restrictions imposed upon that government, then it is doomed to failure as it will inevitably grow into BIG GOVERNMENT, which means BIG BUDDY CLUB, which means... well the era we are entering into right now. The globalists vs those not daft enough to fall for their empty promises and lies.

 

[Xzi]

Aghh, so you are pro-commy then? Meaning you trust in mankind to be honest and fair and divide things up equally without screwing anyone over... riiiiiggghhhhttt.

No, I'm a democratic socialist. Workers should own the means of production, and leadership should be voted on. We also need term limits and more than two parties, of course.

BIG GOVERNMENT

We wouldn't need big government if not for big corporate trying to pull all the strings. Capitalism creates new problems out of thin air in order to sell you the solution.

 

[XDel]

No, I'm a democratic socialist. Workers should own the means of production, and leadership should be voted on. We also need term limits and more than two parties, of course.


We wouldn't need big government if not for big corporate trying to pull all the strings. Capitalism creates new problems out of thin air in order to sell you the solution.

You do realize that the heads of these corporations you speak of do attend the World Economic Forum meetings in Davos with the heads of State right, and you do realize that 99% of the major news media, along with the entertainment industry, the bankers, Wal-Mart, Disney, McDonalds, you name it, are all uniform in regards to this message that they just want to stop the hate and the greed, and want a better future with a happy clappy, more loving humanity, and this and that, and have you also happened to notice that they treat people like shit who don't believe in them and repeat the party line? Did you not see what they did in Australia, what has been done in Canada, and so forth?!

Just because one is Big Business and the other is Big Government, does not mean that they don't go to bed together. Why are you so lost on labels, and how is it that by ridding the world of what ever your conception of Capitalism, that all these other evil bi-products of the human race will just go away?

As long as there are humans and misleading spirits, there will be problems, government, nor Disney can fix that. Their will be lies, deception, greed, envy, jealously, insincerity, false pride, and all those things that drive the world down the tubes.

 

[Xzi]

You do realize that the heads of these corporations you speak of do attend the World Economic Forum meetings in Davos with the heads of State right, and you do realize that 99% of the major news media, along with the entertainment industry, the bankers, Wal-Mart, Disney, McDonalds, you name it, are all uniform in regards to this message that they just want to stop the hate and the greed, and want a better future with a happy clappy, more loving humanity, and this and that, and have you also happened to notice that they treat people like shit who don't believe in them and repeat the party line? Did you not see what they did in Australia, what has been done in Canada, and so forth?!

Uhh yeah...your response implies that I was praising big corporations, when in fact I was doing the opposite. Of course they don't actually give a damn about gay or black people despite celebrating both gay pride month and black history month. It's all about the money, capitalism always is.

Why are you so lost on labels, and how is it that by ridding the world of what ever your conception of Capitalism, that all these other evil bi-products of the human race will just go away?

I'm not suggesting they will, a criminal justice system would still be required in a democratic socialist country. But capitalism long ago passed communism's body count, and it just keeps growing. In my relatively short lifetime alone, the US has gone through multiple economic collapses, and the vast majority of my generation will never be able to afford their own homes or pay off their student loans as a result. Shit's just not working.

 

[KingVamp]

Not saying capitlism will always be around, If we survive long enough, but the real problem right now is it is way too off the rails.