The situation in Ukraine...

[Dranter]

Mutually assured destruction holds, otherwise we'd all be dead already. Besides, with how poorly the rest of Russia's military equipment has apparently been maintained, it wouldn't surprise me if at least half of their nukes are non-functional. The rest would likely be easy to sabotage in case of real emergency (Putin's cheese slides all the way off his cracker, so to speak).

Russia is being tactical in this war. This is not them all out I think. They are withholding some equipment and manpower. What I also think though is that they thought they would be much quicker and encounter less resistance. Modern urban warfare in a fairly developed country with modern expensive equipment (javelins etc) is unpredictable.

 

[Xzi]

Russia is being tactical in this war. This is not them all out I think. They are withholding some equipment and manpower. What I also think though is that they thought they would be much quicker and encounter less resistance. Modern urban warfare in a fairly developed country with modern expensive equipment (javelins etc) is unpredictable.

They have a 40-mile long convoy that is/was heading toward Kyiv, so I'd say they're throwing quite a lot at this. More than they thought they'd need to, certainly.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Mutually assured destruction holds,

Yes, that includes our destruction. Even at the event of a Russian defeat. People like you are dangerous and should hold no political power whatsoever. You want to bet on malfunctioning missiles? If you are that suicidal, play Russian roulette and leave the rest of us out of it. Thanks.

 

[Coto]

And that's why choosing Socialists (in name or spirit) in the government, specifically running as President is always a bad idea.

 

[Xzi]

Yes, that includes our destruction. Even at the event of a Russian defeat. People like you are dangerous and should hold no political power whatsoever. You want to bet on malfunctioning missiles? If you are that suicidal, play Russian roulette and leave the rest of us out of it. Thanks.

No you idiot, that means Russia cannot launch a nuke so long as Putin at least cares about his own life. If he no longer cares about even that, then we take steps to mitigate the possible end of the world. Which includes sabotage, but we also have systems for shooting down missiles/nukes, especially Soviet-era ones.

Nobody can be held responsible for Putin's mental state except Putin.

 

[Xzi]

And that's why choosing Socialists in the government, specifically running as President is always a bad idea.

LMAO @ calling Joe fucking Biden a socialist. I don't like that he rejected the idea, but the other option last election cycle was Donald "Putin's bitch" Trump, who would've gifted Ukraine to Russia outright.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

LMAO @ calling Joe fucking Biden a socialist. I don't like that he rejected the idea, but the other option last election cycle was Donald "Putin's bitch" Trump, who would've gifted Ukraine to Russia outright.

Funny how Donald Trump could've easily "gifted" Ukraine to Russia during his 4 years but never did, only now that he's not in office Putin decides to invade. I guess if Trump would've gotten a second term he would've handed over Ukraine? The world may never know.

 

[Dranter]

Funny how Donald Trump could've easily "gifted" Ukraine to Russia during his 4 years but never did, only now that he's not in office Putin decides to invade. I guess if Trump would've gotten a second term he would've handed over Ukraine? The world may never know.

I strongly disagree about Trump. As soon as Biden won I was 100% sure there would be escalation with Russia somehow. Shame that it turned into a war. The guy has been living through the Cold War his whole life. Russia to him is very much THE ENEMY. Trump was more proactive and open on Russia which can be discussed whether good or bad but I doubt if Trump won this would have happened. Trump saw China as the real enemy and personally rightfully so. Russians are after all much closer culturally and historically to the west.

 

[Xzi]

Funny how Donald Trump could've easily "gifted" Ukraine to Russia during his 4 years but never did, only now that he's not in office Putin decides to invade. I guess if Trump would've gotten a second term he would've handed over Ukraine? The world may never know.

Have you already forgotten what Trump's first impeachment was about? Something something "perfect call" to Ukraine?

The world already knows. Hell, Trump recently called Putin a "genius" for invading Ukraine.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Have you already forgotten what Trump's first impeachment was about? Something something "perfect call" to Ukraine?

The world already knows. Hell, Trump recently called Putin a "genius" for invading Ukraine.

You mean the BS call with nothing substantial? Yes, I might've recalled something like that.

And he called Putin a genius for invading since we got potato head Biden into office who isn't doing jack shit right now. Invade when you know you're enemies are at their weakest.

 

[Xzi]

Trump was more proactive and open on Russia which can be discussed whether good or bad but I doubt if Trump won this would have happened. Trump saw China as the real enemy and personally rightfully so. Russians are after all much closer culturally and historically to the west.

Russia and China are aligned on this because Russia wants Ukraine (and possibly other former USSR territory), while China wants Taiwan and other territory. The only thing that would be different is Trump would be supporting Putin's claim to Ukraine, fracturing the West's support. So yeah, I suppose the invasion might've gone quicker, but it would be no less of a war crime and no less atrocious.

 

[Dranter]

You mean the BS call with nothing substantial? Yes, I might've recalled something like that.

And he called Putin a genius for invading since we got potato head Biden into office who isn't doing jack shit right now. Invade when you know you're enemies are at their weakest.

Putin is an absolute genius on Crimea. This was an absolutely bloodless and brilliantly organised annexation. Fake referendum and all. You cannot ignore this fact. This is what he refers to genius I believe. Donbas and Lughansk were just a bunch of local opportunists.

 

[Xzi]

You mean the BS call with nothing substantial? Yes, I might've recalled something like that.

Seems pretty goddamn substantial now.

And he called Putin a genius for invading since we got potato head Biden into office who isn't doing jack shit right now. Invade when you know you're enemies are at their weakest.

Nah he called Putin a genius because he's always been Putin's little bitch. Don Jr gave up the game long ago when he was quoted as saying, "we have all the funding we need out of Russia."

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Seems pretty goddamn substantial now, smooth-brain.


Nah he called Putin a genius because he's always been Putin's little bitch. Don Jr gave up the game long ago when he was quoted as saying, "we have all the funding we need out of Russia."

Oh really? Whose son was on a Ukraine energy board with zero experience yet making millions of dollars per year because his daddy was the VP and strong armed anyone who decided to go against him, and also had sex with underage hookers and smoked cheese he thought was crack? Was that Trump's son or Hunter Biden? It was Trump's son for sure.

 

[Coto]

LMAO @ calling Joe fucking Biden a socialist. I don't like that he rejected the idea, but the other option last election cycle was Donald "Putin's bitch" Trump, who would've gifted Ukraine to Russia outright.

Yeah I know. If Trump was supporting Putin right now, I would have given him the middle finger as well.

Thing is, right now, USA was a major ally in WWII and socialists are slowly destroying that legacy now.

 

[Deleted member 42501]

Remember kids:

After all anyone who disagrees with you must be an idiot and the best thing to do is disregard them and their viewpoint entirely without considering why it makes you feel that way, amirite?

 

[Dranter]

Remember kids:

After all anyone who disagrees with you must be an idiot and the best thing to do is disregard them and their viewpoint entirely without considering why it makes you feel that way, amirite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

 

[Xzi]

Oh really? Whose son was on a Ukraine energy board with zero experience yet making millions of dollars per year because his daddy was the VP and strong armed anyone who decided to go against him? Was that Trump's son or Hunter Biden? It was Trump's son for sure.

Pretty sure both of them have received plenty of money they didn't earn through the private sector. The issue here is that, at least since about 2010, the Trumps' fortune has largely been coming from Putin's pool of blood money. Faced with those chickens coming home to roost now with current events, he's doubled down, proving definitively that he's subhuman scum.

Yeah I know. If Trump was supporting Putin right now, I would have given him the middle finger as well.

Clearly you haven't been keeping up with the conversation. Trump has recently voiced support for Putin.

 

[Deleted member 42501]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

No you idiot, that means Russia cannot launch a nuke so long as Putin at least cares about his own life. If he no longer cares about even that, then we take steps to mitigate the possible end of the world. Which includes sabotage, but we also have systems for shooting down missiles/nukes, especially Soviet-era ones.

Nobody can be held responsible for Putin's mental state except Putin.

You idiots talked about what should happen with Russia after WW3. After WW3 there is no Europe. Even if Russia loses, there is no Europe. You cannot intercept that many nukes. Every single military expert will tell you that. Unless you find a new tech that destroys them all. At the current state, even at a successfull first strike at Moscow and no more Russian leadership, Europe will be completely wiped out.

In a (Carl Gustav) Jung-nian manner you are projecting your own insane blood lust onto your enemy.