The situation in Ukraine...

[UnderJinx]

So the Russians want Natalya Vovk handed over by the Estonians for planting
the car bomb...LOL that's never gonna happen

 

[Deleted member 194275]

I always wonder if people who really want us to go to war with nations like China or Russia would join the frontlines themselves

Americans like to put others on front line to defend and expand their empire. They sell the guns, they expand their influence and watch everything from TV.

They call that "softpower".

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

People aren't against the Russian people, There against there president.

There was open racism on Geman state television (where a female expert explained the nature of Russians and their acceptence of war and death). Russians were banned from all kinds of events (including cat competitions), were made to disavow their government etc.
Imagine Jews being treated like this.
So yes, "people" are against the Russian people. What you mean is: people like you accept the minority of Russians who think the same way about the Russian government as you do.

 

[LainaGabranth]

"People say negative things about Russians on TV, imagine if this was said about a completely different group who historically has been the victim of a literal fucking genocide that tried to wipe them out of existence, this is completely equatable to the same thing as saying Russia is bad."

I'm glad these forums are accessible to lobotomites like UDR.

 

[Xzi]

Looks like we're getting close to the inevitable conclusion of this conflict. Ukraine has gained a lot of ground in the East and South in recent days, and in the North they've got Russia pushed back all the way to the border.

The Russian army is losing a battalion every day as counterattacks accelerate

and

A former US general has warned that the world should prepare for the total collapse of Russia

 

[LainaGabranth]

Looks like we're getting close to the inevitable conclusion of this conflict. Ukraine has gained a lot of ground in the East and South in recent days, and in the North they've got Russia pushed back all the way to the border.

The Russian army is losing a battalion every day as counterattacks accelerate

and

A former US general has warned that the world should prepare for the total collapse of Russia

COLLAPSE OF RUSSIA?

 

[djpannda]

Not only it has suffered a huge military Embarrassment but now the local Government are starting to Turn..


Tick TOCK!!!

 

[UnderJinx]

Even though Russia has been pushed back in the war, it opens up a dangerous
situation, where Putin could choose to use chemical or tactical nuclear weapons
But let us see how things go over the next months. If he choose to do so, it could
mean a Nato Russia conflict

 

[djpannda]

Even though Russia has been pushed back in the war, it opens up a dangerous
situation, where Putin could choose to use chemical or tactical nuclear weapons
But let us see how things go over the next months. If he choose to do so, it could
mean a Nato Russia conflict

Putin knows if real Chemical or Nuke, will Activate Nato.. Russia can barely hold its own with just Ukraine (with Natos old Toys)
Putin doing that just means he does not Care anymore and wants to see the world burn.

 

[UnderJinx]

Putin knows if real Chemical or Nuke, will Activate Nato.. Russia can barely hold its own with just Ukraine (with Natos old Toys)
Putin doing that just means he does not Care anymore and wants to see the world burn.

That's what im afraid of, because Putin being sick maybe means he has nothing to loose
But i hope im wrong

 

[LainaGabranth]

Authoritarians BTFO!

 

[djpannda]

That's what im afraid of, because Putin being sick maybe means he has nothing to loose
But i hope im wrong

well hopefully, even if he provides those orders, it will be ignored or he will be over pulled . (There has been rumors of people plotting against Putin since the start of the WAR. but 3 days ago we have actually local politicians and Russian TV new host calling for the end of this)

 

[UnderJinx]

well hopefully, even if he provides those orders, it will be ignored or he will be over pulled . (There has been rumors of people plotting against Putin since the start of the WAR. but 3 days ago we have actually local politicians and Russian TV new host calling for the end of this)

Yes and it's so good to hear

 

[pustal]

Looks like we're getting close to the inevitable conclusion of this conflict. Ukraine has gained a lot of ground in the East and South in recent days, and in the North they've got Russia pushed back all the way to the border.

The Russian army is losing a battalion every day as counterattacks accelerate

and

A former US general has warned that the world should prepare for the total collapse of Russia

It is certainly looking good for Ukraine now, but historically, when Russia fails it regroups, changes military leadership and tries again.

Russia right now has a severy military equipment problem, but still has the numeric advantage (although it screwed it's demographic future a lot worse than already was).

Russia has already lost. This will likely be the end of Russia as a military superpower or a superpower at all even, we won't see many if any wars with direct russian involvement far from it's physical boarders and it'll likelly suffer from an economical recession from the likes we never seen.

Nevertheless it still has a chance in this particular war.

well hopefully, even if he provides those orders, it will be ignored or he will be over pulled . (There has been rumors of people plotting against Putin since the start of the WAR. but 3 days ago we have actually local politicians and Russian TV new host calling for the end of this)

Overthrowing Putin plots is more hopefully thinking than anything else I'd say. People with power are the oligarchs. There are two types of oligarchs:

• those that were before Putin, robbed the state blind after the fall of the Soviet Union and are genereally hated by the population, those are in still in power because Putin allows them to be in trade for paying their taxes and not messing in politics aside supporting Putin. Any dissent risk having Putin overthrowing them, a scenario that would actually benefit Putin with public preception;
• those that are in power because of Putin, they owe everything to Putin and also know that Putin can take everything away, including their lives. They are however extremelly loyal.

Any of these groups know that if Putin falls, so probably will they.

Then you have the military. The military is indoctrinated that Russian needs to reach the natural choke points to defend itself:

Ukraine is in the way of two and a half of them, so this war from a russian miltary standpoint is totally justified.

Finally, public perception is highly controlled by the russian misinformation and intelligence machine. Some younger people are more informed but the overwelming majority of people there are captive of what the state wants them to believe. If Russian misinformation had the impact it had in the West, imagine that power it has in its own country.

Peter Zeihan posted a great vlog about it today:

 

[LainaGabranth]

Finally, public perception is highly controlled by the russian misinformation and intelligence machine. Some younger people are more informed but the overwelming majority of people there are captive of what the state wants them to believe. If Russian misinformation had the impact it had in the West, imagine that power it has in it's own country.

I can confirm this is the case. I've had quite a few talks with some older Russian people and you'll find that a significant portion of them recall living under the Union and some even want to go back to it. You can even find a lot of videos on youtube of people talking to older generations of Russian citizens and there's a LOT of anti-American and anti-Western sentiments going around. That said, it's one thing to be gripped by propaganda, and it's another to recognize the absolute shit state of your country. The longer this war goes on, the longer Russia will suffer economically and the longer Putin's grip will as well. On the whole, I don't expect Putin to be ousted, but I do think his chain of command is going to suffer a lot more than it already is.

 

[Xzi]

It is certainly looking good for Ukraine now, but historically, when Russia fails it regroups, changes military leadership and tries again.

They're running out of reliable fighters to regroup with, as they've lost several squads that were supposedly elite enough to take on NATO forces. Their equipment shortages are even more dire than that, and they've been leaving a lot of still-functioning vehicles behind as they hastily retreat.

As for a meaningful change in military leadership, well, that would be limited to giving Putin himself the boot, and that would be ball game as his replacement would understand the futility of efforts to annex Ukraine.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Ukraine will never accept the loss of its territories. Russia will consider attempts at reconquering them attacks on their country. Ergo no peace for decades. Well played, America.
It will either end with a collapse of Moscow or Kiev.

 

[Xzi]

Ukraine will never accept the loss of its territories. Russia will consider attempts at reconquering them attacks on their country. Ergo no peace for decades. Well played, America.
It will either end with a collapse of Moscow or Kiev.

Decades he says, lmao. I'd be very surprised if Russia's offensive survives the winter, as Putin is already desperate enough to be drafting people with zero combat experience or training. And most of them are likely to surrender based on the favorable terms outlined by Ukraine, as opposed to responding well to the threats of torture and/or death coming from the Kremlin.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Decades he says, lmao. I'd be very surprised if Russia's offensive survives the winter, as Putin is already desperate enough to be drafting people with zero combat experience or training. And most of them are likely to surrender based on the favorable terms outlined by Ukraine, as opposed to responding well to the threats of torture and/or death coming from the Kremlin.

Shocking no one at all, the racial essentialist has no understanding of geopolitics either

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

If you think Russia will retreat from Donbass after incorporating it into its territory, you don´t know Russians.

Also, where did u get the idea from that there will be soldiers without training? It will be difficult to find those without as service is mendatory (2 years).