The Library of Congress says copyright laws suck.

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  1. Tempbot

    Tempbot Tunnel Snakes rule

    pip Contributor
    Nov 21, 2007
    The Library of Congress says copyright laws suck.


    You think only "pirates" and "freeloaders" rail against current copyright laws? Well, think again - even the Library of Congress seemingly has had enough. The topic is recorded sound preservation, and in a 181-page in-depth study, the Library of Congress concludes that apart from technical difficulties, US copyright law makes it virtually impossible for anyone to perform any form of audio preservation. The painted picture is grim - very grim.

    The very detailed and in-depth report has been ten years in the making, and was commissioned in the National Recording Preservation Act of 2000. The goal of the study was to inform Congress of the state of audio preservation, the difficulties encountered, what kind of standard procedures are needed for preservation, and so on. The conclusions in the report are grim, at best.

    "Were copyright law followed to the letter, little audio preservation would be undertaken. Were the law strictly enforced, it would brand virtually all audio preservation as illegal," the study concludes, "Copyright laws related to preservation are neither strictly followed nor strictly enforced. Consequently, some audio preservation is conducted."

    While the recording industry undertakes some preservation, they will only preserve those recordings from which they think they might profit in the future (what a surprise).

    Another important - and very well-worded - complaint in the study is that copyright law is seen as so restrictive by the public, that people simply dismiss it outright. "In the perception of the public, copyright law has a reputation for being overly restrictive," the study notes, "This perception fosters a dismissive attitude toward the law in communities that can hardly be characterized as rogue elements of society.

    This detailed study confirms something that I - and many others with me - have been saying for a long time now: modern-day copyright is no longer performing its intended function, i.e., to promote the sciences and arts. Instead, it has become a license to print money, existing almost exclusively to secure the exorbitant income of big content.[/p]

    [​IMG] Source

    For my own input section, I'm going to quote a friend of mine.

    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    tl;dr: No tl;dr for you. This is a serious issue, especially for the young ones of you (who are most likely to tl;dr this) that intend to make any sort of media/entertainment as your living.
    Contributed by Rydian
  2. Kwartel

    Kwartel The fairest in all the land

    Apr 11, 2009
    I understand why they use the copyright law, but in the common day and age it's outdated.
  3. papavader

    papavader Member

    Sep 29, 2006
    A surprising view from the American Congress and a really well thought-out comment! You have made my morning, as Copyright is a favorite subject of mine.

    Agreed on the comment. Anything worth reading on a subject is not gonna be short. You can't relay any meaningful information from a tweet or a wall post.
  4. Supreme Dirt

    Supreme Dirt GBAtemp Regular

    Sep 14, 2009
    Ugh, why do I have to read this now? Expect a Canadian perspective with regards to our own virtually non-existent copyright laws tonight.
  5. Gh0sti

    Gh0sti iOS Guru

    Aug 19, 2009
    United States
    Inside you, all around you
    there needs to be a reform in the law, it is out right stupid
  6. DryYoshi

    DryYoshi Love child of Dry Bones and Yoshi

    Mar 16, 2008
    Yoshi's Island
    I didn't really understand what they're talking about.
    Can anyone explain to me in short what the heck this news is about?
    (The only thing I made up was that making music is illegal or something lol)
    (and yeah, copyright sucks, 'specially on youtube)
  7. Amak

    Amak Advanced Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    United States
    Copyright HAD a purpose, but now it is just flat out abused. It need a MAJOR overhaul. Especially with the stupid 70yrs until public domain....
  8. Ron

    Ron somehow a weeb now.

    Dec 10, 2009
    I support the Library of Congress

    While in Canada [​IMG]
  9. baffle-boy

    baffle-boy GBAtemp Fan

    Jul 29, 2009
    i know i shouldn't do this buuut

    TL;DR: the copyright laws in the US (and in many other countries for that matter) are much too strict and are limiting free expression and the spread of ideas to a ridiculous extent. the laws make little sense and have been passed in the name of a fight against piracy but are hurting mnay people who never do and don't plan on pirating even more. and people need to stand up against this nonsense.

    in Canada there are people trying to pass even more ridiculous laws, and I really don't want to see that happen.
  10. DJ91990

    DJ91990 Dark-Type Trainer

    Feb 9, 2009
    United States
    Oakwood Region
    I also think the Copyright law is mis-interpeted by "Copyright holders" to the rest of the world. They don't say that you can't remix a song and collaberate then build someting new.

    They just say that "you have uploaded a song or something that contains something that has our song in it. As we sell this song and you have uploaded it to a place where people can listen to it free of charge that is hurting our business. You are a thief and should be punished!"

    Also don't you all see!? They attack people that offer free entertainment! If you start remixing every song you hear, you won't need to buy any new .mp3s if there thousands upon thousands of remixes that you can download at no cost! It would ruin the record and entertainment industry's business model! So now they use that corrupted copyright law that THEY helped to create to use as a weapon against the American public!

    Two years from now when the presidential election occurs I am going to vote for the person running for president that will combat the old Copyright law and replace it with one that THE PEOPLE want not THE CORPORATION wants! That sure is better than voting for "Government Health Insurance" Bah ha ha ha ha!!
  11. DxEggman

    DxEggman GBAtemp Fan

    Feb 28, 2008
    United States
    High five to all Canadians! Born and raised in Vancouver here!

    On topic, i was kinda surprised at the news; i didnt realize anyone up congress wasn't an idiot.
  12. Canonbeat234

    Canonbeat234 Redeemed Temper

    Sep 24, 2008
    Curses, I can't fully articulate this topic with indepth typing due to the fact this is a smartphone with BAD typing inputs.

    On-topic: It seems to me that our President can't fully grasp the true power of copyright-laws. It's funny how our videos from the VHS gives you those warning signs from the FBI. Majority of us back then don't know what it meant unless it was by lames terms. Right now the same law is getting complicated and more complex due to the fact certain regulations are not enforced! Congress is realizing that most company's who sue other people from breaking that law, they either don't know the law completely or didn't fully enforce it in the first place.

    I however theorize that most products being made by other countries instead of here, those ideas and manufacturing goes in hand-in-hand without any thoughts of those ideas being compromised. To me, who can't say the flashcards were made from China but they manufacture those official Nintendo products and can now 'mimic' their own. This is popularization comes into play because if the GBA or DS were not popular then China will never make flashcards in the first place (R4DS anyone?). This is also when piracy is useless because of the compromise, you given blueprints to your idea. People use it for their own gain, they mimic off of it and now other people can do the same thing!

    This is where things get interesting, Nintendo went after the R4 due to its easy accessiblity. They didn't go after CycloDS and Supercard which to me I believe has to with the 'making an example' to all the other flashcards which didn't nothing. The only odd effect it caused was breed clones and clones of R4 flashcards. To me the other flashcard company's has to get the blueprints from somewhere in order to make compatable DS flashcards on the legit handhelds. Nintendo can't fight it even with the new 3DS, because someone from that company will compromise those blueprints and give it to someone else. Or like the GBA, DS, DSlite, DSi, and etc; the manufacturers will find a way to make flashcards base on how the handheld works.

    This is some deep shit, it's like no matter what. You will always have rat around you >>
  13. lj44

    lj44 Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    United States
    Copyright is made to protect the ideas of the inventors, but it shouldn't be used to keep that idea to themselves unless people pay for it.
  14. Elaugaufein

    Elaugaufein GBAtemp Regular

    Jan 26, 2010
    Actually keeping the distribution (the right to make copies of that "idea") to themselves unless people pay is exactly what copyright law is meant to do. Its supposed to give them a monopoly on that for a limited duration so that they have some reason to share their ideas as opposed to keep them in their head where no one can get them.

    Its just that current copyright law is considerably more restrictive than the original implementation (especially the DMCA variations, which are roughly equivalent to being guilty of a crime for owning a kitchen knife since it could potentially be used for assault) and the terms have been increased (and as things have been going they are effectively perpetual for anything produced in recent history, since they've been getting extended faster than they lapse).

    This is in contrast to the fact that duplication of some forms of IP is now easier than ever, that many forms of storage media last significantly less time than copyright duration (a CD lasts less than a decade) and that old forms for data storage are phased out more rapidly (we've been using books (or scrolls, etc) for centuries, books from centuries ago still exist and are legible), the cassette tape (for music recording) or the Atari Cartridge are already effectively extinct (and it hasn't even been a century).

    Copyright no longer does what it was supposed to ie see to it that ideas were released for the benefit of the public (eventually, after the originator had had a chance to profit from them) and instead is used to hold ideas hostage into perpetuity.

    TL;DR: Actually yes it should be used to keep ideas to themselves unless people pay for it but only for a limited time. The problem is just that current law doesn't have a meaningfully limited time*. Many works are extinct (decades) before they cease to be copyrighted.

    *Okay not just that, there's also ridiculously draconian application, penalties vastly out of proportion to damages done, still holding in full force after a work has been out of publication for longer than it was in publication, denying copying for private use (such as preservation) etc.
  15. I K K E

    I K K E Member

    May 26, 2008
    This is an interesting topic.
    Not just because of the subjects piracy and copyright, but because everybody has a different opinion about this. And everybody thinks they have the right opinion. It's sort of funny, but i think that's because i don't have an opinion. [​IMG]
    But, who is right? [​IMG]
  16. DryYoshi

    DryYoshi Love child of Dry Bones and Yoshi

    Mar 16, 2008
    Yoshi's Island
    Still didn't really get it, but thx though.