The Korean War has ended

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  1. Eastonator12

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    im starting to think you actually have a mental problem. you haven't actually posted any proof of anything you just said. and the fact that you think donald trump got all of his money from russia, just proves how much of a brainwashed moron you actually are. He got his money from having a job, and making a business. something no one on this site could ever dream of doing. Hillary is a political hack whos claim to fame is that she's a woman so she should've won.
     
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    Hey! I get my money from having a job, and making business!
    Sure it is just your average Joe with a degree amounts of money, but hey! I feel offended by that statement! /s
     
  3. Old

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    Once again, sigh, none of this is factually accurate. Spin, shout, spin some more, and recite all of the propaganda you'd care to; facts are indisputable. You're not very good at this, kid. You've been had, red pilled into a haze of willful ignorance & misplaced rage. It's never too late to join the real world and open those eyes up. In your current state, red pilled and blind, I have no desire for further interaction with you.

    Pssssst....you know he's gonna die in Federal prison, right? That is, of course, if he doesn't flee into reclusion in Vlad's arms. :)

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    Now the thread is turning cringeworthy....
     
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    I have to agree. It would be crazy and suicidal to give up the one deterrent they have from being trampled over by US or its bloodthirsty allies. Same with Iran with regard to Israel.
     
  6. Taleweaver

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    Hmm...this thread isn't going so well. Can we please cut down on insinuations on fellow gbatemp members? The last two pages are more clickbait than anything about the meeting or even Korea.

    There's a lot to be said for this. I'm probably about as skeptic as @Xzi or @Old on what actually happened, but regardless of personal views or even personal agenda's of either side, this could indeed be a good thing in the end. And I'm sure no one will contest that the current political climate is better than when they were throwing war calling tweets at each other.

    My local newspaper ran an interesting piece comparing this meeting between the ones between Reagan and Gorbatsjov, or between Nixon and Mao Zedong. These meetings also started a shift in the political situation between the US and the USSR/China. Be it for the better or for the worse (the USSR crumbled, China...is still slowly rising from isolation). It's that "better or worse" that makes this an important one.


    Because...*sigh*...what will be the follow-up of this? It's not hard to guess that Trump wants to use this as a prime example of actual presidency (with right and reason, btw). But even if he was the most popular president ever, the press still would have the task to check things in another light. And point out things like...

    -the fact that Kim backed out of earlier promises of de-nuclearisation
    -those attempts were made with long preparations, strict planning and diplomacy (pretty much the opposite of Trump's known "I'll know within five minutes" approach)
    -this deal was pretty much made by North Korea before it was agreed by Donald Trump (it's even unclear to what degree even his administration had any say on the matter)
    -the deal leaves many blanks and uncertainties. Heh...the only concrete thing I (or rather: my news sources) can make of it is a reduction of US war games with South Korea. And it looks like S.Korea wasn't even informed of this decision
    -in the end, it'll be the nuclear experts - who currently aren't allowed in the country yet - who can truly say something about actual, factual diminished nuclear power of North Korea...but it's silent even about them

    So...all in all, these ingredients point to something that can easily blow up in at least Trump's face. During mid-terms, or even in November...you can guarantee that the democratic opposition will put heavy question marks with those achievements. And unless Kim says something stupid (as opposed to, say...just keep his nuclear arsenal and act like he's co-operating). Trump will either have to believe his opposition (erm...not really likely, given the track record) or ally with what's basically an enemy against a part of the American population.
     
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    im going to laugh my ass off when he wins again in 2020, because everyone with half a brain knows Mueller has nothing. If what you say is true, that trump gets all his money from russia, dont you think the FBI would've found it already? And wow, literally everything on that list is actually giving me brain cancer. "accused of rape of a 13yo". wow you guys go low, but hey moron, Bill Clinton actually DID rape people. And theres a huge difference between "accused" and "we proved he did it". I could accuse you of raping some 3 year old, would that mean you did it? of course not. I think im done here, can't argue with someone who's so disconnected from reality he wants the country to fail just to see someone who never should have been allowed to win succeed.
     
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    This is really the only statement that came out of yesterday that matters:

    https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1006473156868091904

    He gave up the entire game right there. It's not about accomplishing anything, it's about optics entirely. Nobody holds Trump accountable for anything, so why should he follow through on anything? Just make another excuse when shit hits the fan.
     
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    That was golden really. He might be a horrible president, but he is a great comedian at heart. Sure it comes natural. Puts a smile in your face. Until you remember his actions doesn't only affect America.

    Anyway, I prefer to think about the smile in my face.
     
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    Being in America it's not funny at all. It's the kind of comedy a banana republic dictator uses to deny responsibility for anything bad/corrupt they've done. In six months Trump will have his dumbass supporter base apologizing for him so he doesn't have to. Same as he did with the wall after he gave up on his most prominent campaign promise less than a year into his first term. Not that I'm a fan of that kind of wasteful spending, but the money ended up going to corporate tax breaks anyway. At least a wall would've been fun to knock down bit by bit.
     
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    Wait! Hold that thought, former me.

    About 24 hours later, it seems that the only concrete part of the deal is shut down. Yes...while North Korean news proudly proclaims that Donald Trump has the intention to stop the military exercises (and Trump himself said that it would save a lot of money to withdraw them), he NOW says that he has no intention of doing so at all.
    (note: sorry for the Dutch news sources...I can't be bothered to find their English or Korean counterparts right now)

    In other words: so much for the historical meeting. It was fun while it lasted, but alas...you shouldn't send a con man to do do the work of politicians and diplomats. :(



    Six months? This gem is a year old by now.
     
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    I'm never afraid to admit when I'm wrong. That appears to be the case here. I wish I could say that things looked good, but they don't.

    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/394896-satellite-images-raise-alarms-about-north-korean-nukes

    The original source is NBC news which has been considered a liberal biased news source, however that doesn't discredit these accusations. If this is indeed the situation, I believe the Trump Administration could swiftly move against Pyongyang militarily, and the very title of this thread could be the opposite.
     
  13. Taleweaver

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    Erm... The sources are actually US intelligence agencies. No matter how biased, it's not like stations make these things up (though I wonder whether a right-wing news station like fox will consider this"newsworthy").
     
  14. brickmii82
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    Yes, I had trouble finding any conservative leaning sites that would confirm. That’s why the quoted article is from The Hill. I mean, an intelligence agency reporting that fuel enrichment sites have been renovated would be considered newsworthy I’d imagine.
     
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    these youtubers visits to n.korea are crazy. N.Korea looks stuck in the 1950s, they wasted their resources on war.

    in zombie movies n.korea stays intact because of their strict ruling but now it looks like they'd be first to get wiped out.
     
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    This is why I hope for peace. That and much of my family is still in Hawaii. Guess where the first nuke is gonna hit if we go to war?
     
  18. gameboy

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    their military gear looks straight out of ww2, by the time they activate a launch sequence a stealth bomber would have already blown it up in n.korea all over their asses
     
  19. Clydefrosch

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    the us was never in any danger from korea, the danger has always been them causing widespread murder and destruction in south korea and maybe japan and it still is.
    nothing has changed in that regard.
    oh wait, south korea is probably not that sure about US support going forward.
     
  20. Taleweaver

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    That would be North Korea (okay... Perhaps South Korea, depending on the presence of the military). The whole reason of those wargames in the area is that anything that gets launched can (and will) get shot down quickly.

    However, I remain having to point out that this"if we go to war" is, in fact, a large if. USA also has nukes and is also lead by a lunatic... It doesn't mean that we (Belgium) are going to be nuked soon.
     
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