The Korean War has ended

[Xzi]

The 2 points were 1) His tax cut did create more jobs, and 2)If you already had investments in the markets, and in many cases a 401K, you're doing much better now than in the previous FEW administrations. You need to put your problems with his personality aside and take a look at what's ACTUALLY HAPPENING. Everyone loves to bash him, regardless of the fact that we are doing better with him. What's sad is that everyone would somehow be worse off, yet happier, if Hillary had one. Makes no sense. He's not only causing positive change despite his ignorant rants, but he would be making even more positive change if congress would simply work WITH him.

1. There's no evidence of job creation due to the tax cuts, all you posted was existing workers receiving bonuses determined by their employers. 2. The market did well, and was much more stable, under Obama. As I said, now is a really bad time for potential investors. The rich get richer, sure, and especially those with insider information, but little else changes.

You need to stop ignoring all Trump's problems and look at what's ACTUALLY HAPPENING. The US's image on the world stage has gone to shit, we're no longer a leader in important sectors like renewable energy, and we're on the fast track to another economic crash/recession with Trump repealing all the financial protections put in place after the '08 crash. Congress is owned by Trump's party, the reason for being unable to accomplish anything is purely incompetence.

 

[urherenow]

1. There's no evidence of job creation due to the tax cuts, all you posted was existing workers receiving bonuses determined by their employers. 2. The market did well, and was much more stable, under Obama. As I said, now is a really bad time for potential investors. The rich get richer, sure, and especially those with insider information, but little else changes.

You need to stop ignoring all Trump's problems and look at what's ACTUALLY HAPPENING. The US's image on the world stage has gone to shit, we're no longer a leader in important sectors like renewable energy, and we're on the fast track to another economic crash/recession with Trump repealing all the financial protections put in place after the '08 crash. Congress is owned by Trump's party, the reason for being unable to accomplish anything is purely incompetence.

You're incompetent. Republicans do not have a supermajority. They couldn't pass shit without democrats giving a thumbs up, even if every last Republican showed up and voted yes on something. Go back to school.

and no evidence of more jobs? What about having the lowest unemployment rate in 17 years don't you understand?

 

[Xzi]

You're incompetent. Republicans do not have a supermajority. They couldn't pass shit without democrats giving a thumbs up, even if every last Republican showed up and voted. Go back to school.

Rofl, someone's a bit testy. Obama accomplished more under a Congress and Senate controlled in the majority by the opposition, your excuse is poor at best. But that's all we've gotten so far from this administration's supporters: excuses. Oh, and "what about Hillary?"

and no evidence of more jobs? What about having the lowest unemployment rate in 17 years don't you understand?

So you want to give the tax cuts credit for roughly three consecutive years of decreased unemployment prior to the cuts being passed? You're free to accept whatever crazy logic you want, but that doesn't quite mesh with me.

 

[urherenow]

Rofl, someone's a bit testy. Obama accomplished more under a Congress and Senate controlled in the majority by the opposition, your excuse is poor at best. But that's all we've gotten so far from this administration's supporters: excuses. Oh, and "what about Hillary?"


So you want to give the tax cuts credit for roughly three consecutive years of decreased unemployment prior to the cuts being passed? You're free to accept whatever crazy logic you want, but that doesn't quite mesh with me.

The people involved don't even mesh with you. Moon himself stated Trump deserves the award. But you know better. Small businesses stating exactly what I'm trying to tell you : https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-trump-tax-cuts-gary-rabine-column/340627002/

You don't care. You just hate the man, and that's all you see. Try Googling increased jobs and tax cuts. All you'll seem to find is countless commentaries stating the same crap that you're regurgitating... from BEFORE it was signed into law or had time to start taking effect. What stories to you see recently about it (besides the one I just linked)? None. Crickets. Because there's nobody able to say "I told you so". It's not news if you can't bash Trump.

I'm done on this subject. You'd bash the man if he donated a kidney to save the pope.

 

[Xzi]

I'm done on this subject. You'd bash the man if he donated a kidney to save the pope.

Donate a kidney to him? Trump fuckin' got in a twitter war with the pope once man, you're killin' me.

You must read a lot of opinion pieces, but Trump is not the great businessman he claims to be. He never was. He bankrupt two casinos, and he failed to sell steak and football to Americans. And that was back when he still had his wits about him. Now he's very clearly slipping into early dementia/Alzheimer's, and he's only going to get more erratic and useless as time goes on. Impeachment sooner rather than later would be merciful.

 

[Viri]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/2/north-korea-releases-us-detainees-bows-another-tru/

Hurray!

 

[Xzi]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/2/north-korea-releases-us-detainees-bows-another-tru/

Hurray!

Yes, they'll be giving in to any demands at this point. Again, N. Korea lost their only bargaining chip on the world stage when their nuclear test site collapsed.

 

[Xzi]

Like I said, if anybody can fuck this up, it's the Trump administration. Yesterday North Korea canceled scheduled talks with South Korea and warned the US over joint military exercises occurring near their country:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-...g&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=news_central

Today, John Bolton, Trump's warhawk National Security Advisor, was running his fat fucking mouth on TV and angered North Korea again:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/north-korea-denounces-bolton-threatens-to-walk-away-from-trump-summit

So the talks are looking less and less likely to happen at all, and if North Korea does show, they're not going to come to the table willing to concede everything up front like I'm sure Trump expects.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Like I said, if anybody can fuck this up, it's the Trump administration. Yesterday North Korea canceled scheduled talks with South Korea and warned the US over joint military exercises occurring near their country:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-...g&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=news_central

Today, John Bolton, Trump's warhawk National Security Advisor, was running his fat fucking mouth on TV and angered North Korea again:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/north-korea-denounces-bolton-threatens-to-walk-away-from-trump-summit

So the talks are looking less and less likely to happen at all, and if North Korea does show, they're not going to come to the table willing to concede everything up front like I'm sure Trump expects.

To be honest, I'm not a Trump suppoter or fan by any means, but this sounds more like NK playing people like usual.
I don't think Trump ever deserved a Peace Nobel prize, like many requested, but I also don't think he fucked this up. It's just the usual NK nonsense.

 

[Xzi]

To be honest, I'm not a Trump suppoter or fan by any means, but this sounds more like NK playing people like usual.
I don't think Trump ever deserved a Peace Nobel prize, like many requested, but I also don't think he fucked this up. It's just the usual NK nonsense.

Everybody knows you don't take a victory lap before you've finalized anything, but that's what Bolton was essentially doing on TV. TBH I doubt they even care that much if North Korea walks away from negotiations altogether, that would give Trump and Bolton their first target for war back. As it is they're stuck threatening Iran, and that would be a much messier conflict. Not that we should be looking to start another war anywhere, but that's your typical Republican re-election tactic.

There was a NY Magazine article basically reflecting your sentiments, though:

'North Korea surprises Trump administration by acting like North Korea again'

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/north-korea-threatens-cancel-trump-summit.html

 

[iwabo]

It's just the usual NK nonsense.

How is not wanting to end up like Libya nonsense? If you are in peace talks and the opposing party is doing military exercises near your border that's very much provoking, just how it was provoking when NK used to fire missiles in Japanese airspace. Of course NK is playing them, but they have a solid ground to stand on because USA foreign politics are worse than ever.

 

[Xzi]

The US summit meeting with North Korea has been canceled, Trump claims over North Korean "hostility."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44242558

Page 1, I done CALL'T IT.

 

[Hanafuda]

Did you call this?

https://twitter.com/business/status/999780866967703558

I have no idea where this goes, but that's one very fast cave.

 

[Glyptofane]

The shithole neocons Trump has no choice but to surround himself with sabotaged this. It was bad for business. They absolutely refuse to throw away the option of pretending NK is some kind of credible threat in order to start a war when needed.

 

[Xzi]

Did you call this?

https://twitter.com/business/status/999780866967703558

I have no idea where this goes, but that's one very fast cave.

You realize this means KJU is playing Donnie, since Trump is now the stubborn one unwilling to meet, and N Korea come out looking like the diplomatic adults in the room.

 

[Hanafuda]

You realize this means KJU is playing Donnie, since Trump is now the stubborn one unwilling to meet, and N Korea come out looking like the diplomatic adults in the room.

That's not what this looks like at all.

 

[Deleted User]

IT'S A TRAP

 

[Xzi]

That's not what this looks like at all.

If you say so. Trump canceled the meeting, not N Korea. Pence said some dumb shit publicly so they fired back verbally, but I'm sure the Trump admin knew what would happen in the first place. Anything to get a war before 2020, just like GWB.

 

[Taleweaver]

Did you call this?

https://twitter.com/business/status/999780866967703558

I have no idea where this goes, but that's one very fast cave.

Erm...I have no idea what you're suggesting with these reports, but it's not a secret that the US blew up the deal. The Trump administration didn't like the fact that Kim Jong-Un doesn't want to be threatened*. The response from the North Korean minister (Chu Son Hui) was that they weren't about to drop to their knees in order to talk the USA. Okay, he also called Mike Pence's sayings dumb, but that's pretty hard to deny.

Donald's tweet in this regard doesn't make sense. It could have meant something after the meeting and there were terms to begin with, but as it stands it's just a childish way to deflect blame.

*Mike Pence said basically "make a deal with us or you'll end up the same as Khadaffi". Kind of strange that it wasn't Trump himself making this sort of blunder.

 

[Joe88]

And it seems like it's going to back on again
https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ingapore-prepare-case-trump/story?id=55456142
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/26/politics/north-and-south-korean-leaders-meet-again/index.html

We also leaned there was actually a few things happening before this that lead to the cancellation
North korea not answering phones after repeated contact attempts, they also just never showed up at a meeting for top officials from each country that was supposed to happen in Singapore to iron out the details on the June 12 summit
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/25/politics/north-korea-trump-summit-singapore-intl/index.html

That along with North Korea threatening both South Korea and the US within the last week lead to it.