1. Zhongtiao1

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    Last week I received my Atari VCS! After three years, it was finally here in all of its glory.

    It's built well, so well in fact I can't open it to install an M.2 :P (Apparently the first 100 or so had too much adhesive, so they won't open without pretty much ripping the whole thing apart. Mine was number 37).

    I didn't buy the classic controller or the modern controller, so I can't speak to their quality.

    The VCS uses its own debian based operating system called Atari OS. The store is very sparse at the moment due to it not being released to the public yet, however they do have the Atari VCS vault 1 and 2. In my opinion, these are the killer games and at this point, would be the reason you get one.

    The Atari VCS vault 1 and 2 play old Atari arcade, 2600 and 5200 games. With both, you get around 150(?) old titles. While you can probably get a similar experience from emulators, I'm pretty sure they made their own in-house emulator for these games.

    Missile Command Recharged on the other hand is kinda meh, even for being free. Also, Antstream Arcade sucks.

    The OS itself is well thought out, it's just the little things that irk me. For instance, the "apps" they have are just links to Chrome pages. On random menus, my xbox one controller just won't work for some reason, but using the Atari VCS companion app does. It comes with 32GB of storage, but only 7GB is left to the user to install games.

    You can boot from a USB and I will be installing Windows on a portable SSD after the holidays, but like I said above, no upgrading the RAM and adding an M.2 for me.

    There's nothing inherently wrong with the Atari VCS, nothing that can't be fixed with updates (of which there's already been one). They've also committed to updating the OS every two to three weeks, so we'll see how that goes.

    For the $200 I spent in the indiegogo campaign three years ago, it's a no-brainer. The AMD R1606G CPU (as much as I like to poke fun at it) is really capable, For the $400 it retails for at GameStop and Walmart, it becomes more of a stretch. The biggest pro currently is that you can boot any 64-bit OS on it, connect any USB accessories, and use it like a normal computer. While not the most powerful machine, it CAN push 4K, so it would be a great long term media box.

    Overall, I'm really happy with it. While not the Series X killer we were obviously expecting, it's still a good console. It was originally designed to be a competitor to the Switch, and I still believe it is more powerful, however, it will probably be more of a competitor to the Intellivision Amico and the as-of-yet unannounced SNK console. A "sub-generation" of consoles.
     
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    you only paid $200 for it? not bad
     
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    I'm just surprised the thing actually came out.
     
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    Oh nice! Maybe worth it for $200
     
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    How does its raw power compare to a Shield TV and will they be making any more?
     
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    eh my Atari "computer system" is more atari vcs than the "atari vcs", first off it acutally runs on native 2600 hardware:D:D

    with an atmega644, 64k and a 8910 psg

    now i store a full tia frame-buffer, and still have 32k of ram to use for program code



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    I'd say it's more powerful than a shield TV. More RAM, x86 CPU, multi boot support, etc.

    Unfortunately, the next batch isn't arriving until March.
     
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    $399... Are they dilusional? With that amount I can afford a Series S, a beef meal, some cheap ass brick wine and some oz of weed too.

    For $200 I would think about it seriously but 399 for a dualcore ryzen, 4GB DDR4 RAM, a 2 botton joystick and a cheap ass rebranded PowerA controller? Not even with your wallet.
     
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    I will say it emulates the Wii U flawlessly. I pretty much exclusively use it in Windows mode and use cemu with playnite so I only need a controller
     
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    Anyone bitching about what this is and the cost has missed the point entirely.

    I think its a great device and hope it takes off because folks like me who want a small PC equivalent for emulation without the crap involved with making your own/config etc.. its an easdy sell.

    Hope it takes off and we see more forays into this because the Shield is good, very well supported and most importantly optimized ports but needs more grunt and this is that. Its amazing how much more efficient these devices have got in terms of power, heat and noise. Give it a couple of years and you'll have the ultimate all in one emulation device for pennies.
     
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    Have you tried Retroarch? I'm wondering if it can handle Sega Saturn, nat res & crt royale. That embedded Ryzen looks great: 4 cores, 8 threads and TDP: 12-25W, I thought it was just a dualcore but on the paper it looks like a 2200U.

    But still, 399 is too much.

    PS: Compared to Series S is too expensive but I do understand the price, they need to make profit and Atari is not Microsoft.

    If they sell just the console for 299 later, I will get one, seems to be a great htpc.
     
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    Can it emulates PCSX2 ? :creep:
     
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    I have double checked and is not as powerful as a 2200g, is more like a Athlon 200GE. It is way to expensive for what it is and what it does.

    A CVS is more expensive than a Series S and this one includes a controller that is why better than the PowerA's "Modern Controller". Maybe I do not see the elefant in the room but I cannot understand why someone would spend $399 for this, I mean... is non sense, with that amount you can get a Xbox or you can build a htpc with 2200G that is why better than this.

    The emulation on this one is not that awesome... It is as same as my One X. CVS as a console itself is bullshit, it has no games and if you want to do some stuff you need to spend some cash to upgrade RAM and get a M.2 Sata drive and it and take time to setup a Linux Distro because Windows 10 cannot deliver the true potencial this weak ass Atari has.

    So, yeah, maybe I'm bitching but for 399 you can afford a second hand Wii U or a brand new Xbox Series S.

    This CVS only make sense for Atari fans and maybe people who do not know any better. There are way better alternatives for emulation.

    Edit: A Nvidia Shield is way better for emulation than this Atari, you do not even need to spend more cash to upgrade a Shield, on this Atari, besides the 299 for the console without controller/joystick, you need to spend so more for the drive and more ram. Yeah, big deal, this Atari has a CISC CPU and yara yara but is weak asf, the Tegra may be a RISC one but it does the stuff you pay a way better than this Atari, and it does more stuff out of the box, good luck with the performance you could get on Windows 10.
     
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    It is a dual core. The CPU is the Ryzen R1606G. Dual Core 4 thread. I haven't tried retroarch, but dolphin works flawlessly as well.
     
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    What do you think the platform limits are for this machine in terms of smooth emulation on something demanding? Something beyond Shield TV level as that already handles upto Wii/GC very well along with all the older stuff.
     
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    I'd say Wii U/PS2 is the limit. I haven't tried it yet, but supposedly yuzu with the latest update runs at about 20 fps steady on pokemon shield. So there is potential to be even better.

    I really don't think the hardware is the limit here (except for PS3/X360 of course). I think the limit is the lack of optimization in emulators. For instance, ever since I started filing bug reports for CEMU performance has been increased in subsequent updates.
     
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    Wonder if I could build a pc for cheaper
     
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    ALWAYS, you just pay the cost of parts
     
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    Yawn! People who say things like that are as bad as this:


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    https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/...stall-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut-fuck/


    People who are buying these aren't buying them because they think "Hey, I wonder if I could build a PC for cheaper?". Its not aimed at people who think like that (ie super nerds) but at casuals, lapsed gamers and people who actually have a life.

    For me the form factor, ease of use and relative power to price ratio in an off the shelf unit is the appeal as it could become the new Shield TV as the set top box area lags behind in power whilst gimmicky handhelds are getting ramped up like crazy.

    Or, I suppose, I could wonder if I could build a PC cheaper. And complain about sharp knees. Whilst looking like an IRL version of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.
     
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    "People have different opinions than I do, so I'm going to needlessly insult and belittle them while doing nothing but make myself look like an asshole waist deep in buyers' remorse that I don't want to admit."
     
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