Heres the deal I installed the cyclowiz and everything was working correctly. Then i decided to start there switch install and when i tried to install the s wire i pulled up the pad. And i tried alternated points and had no luck. I got stuck in the update loops and began to give up. After all of this the wii would not read backups and read orignals just fine. Also i belive the led seemed to be a little dim but that could just be paranioa. So i uninstalled the cyclowiz with the hopes of installing the Wiikey. I noticed the Wiikey doesnt use the S point, so i would like to know is if installing the Wiikey should work. I just dont wanna waste more money just incase that the s point pad is going to effect the install of the wiikey. Could somebody please help me.