Switch 2 hacking question

[masagrator]

And no I don’t care about their stance about “no piracy”,

> Make a statement that can be easily invalidated with one argument
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If not for Atmosphere, SX OS wouldn't exist in the form it existed. SX OS just used Atmosphere to introduce their features which can be monetized because they knew those features will never be implemented into Atmosphere itself. Only really great feature they made that was later implemented into Atmosphere was emunand (called emummc in Atmosphere source code since it has nothing in common with emunand source wise).

Still SX OS was Atmosphere fork. Everything that was called "CFW" was based on Atmosphere.

 

[whitesword7]

You're right, xecuter devs did stuff that atmosphere devs didn't want to do.

Not sure what this proves tho.

I’m just saying that “100% vulnerability free” statement doesn’t mean much when the atmosphere dev themselves won’t do some things based on their “no piracy” policy. They’re not a 100% perfect dev, there will always be someone crazy enough out there that doesn’t care about any of this policy.

the atmosphere dev will never make something like the MIG Switch in a million years is my point

while it got a lot of people banned on switch 2, the mig switch does work to run a pirated xci switch 1 game, so that already beat the atmos dev in terms of competition

 

[emmauss]

I’m just saying that “100% vulnerability free” statement doesn’t mean much when the atmosphere dev themselves won’t do some things based on their “no piracy” policy. They’re not a 100% perfect dev, there will always be someone crazy enough out there that doesn’t care about any of this policy.

the atmosphere dev will never make something like the MIG Switch in a million years is my point

while it got a lot of people banned on switch 2, the mig switch does work to run a pirated xci switch 1 game, so that already beat the atmos dev in terms of competition

The MIG switch doesn't use any exploit to run. The creators reversed engineered the cart loading handshake and that is what makes it works even on patched consoles and the switch 2. Yes, having an exploit made it easier to RE the cart loader, but the existence of the MIG is irrelevant to whether an exploit is possible on the current switch 2, because they work outside the scope of what an exploit will enable.
Also, whether an exploit will enable piracy is not relevant to whether an exploit will be discovered. The requirements for an exploit to run game backups is the same for running homebrew, especially for a console such as the switch 2, where all the services required to decrypt and load game backups is in the same kernel, and not a bootloader like in the gamecube and wii era.

 

[janobi]

just note that the atmosphere devs are also not “100% perfect matrix hacker dev”. Some feature like playing your switch game on external hdd is still exclusive to SXOS, they’re also not the one who made MIG Switch in the first place. All that credit goes to team xecuter.

And no I don’t care about their stance about “no piracy”, I only care for the fact they’re not the one who made all of those things above

Well the "hacker" Gary Bowser is afaik still in prison for the nintendo SXOS modchip, he's hacked all of the nintendo devices, the problem he created was the licensing of the work, and requiring a key to use it. That's where Bowser and the others in that team really went against everything. Xecuter afaik, was a chinese national, or had links to china, as that's where they were making the chips.

They did something similar with the xbox scene, although Bowser wasn't involved in that, I can't remember the name of the UK guy, but he had a website that his dad run for them, and was making bank! I know one of the other team members too, but not seen/heard off him for a long time.

Shame Bowser went the way he did, as he was clearly a very talented developer/coder, I guess his greed got the better of him, especially after the whole maxconsole saga. For those of you old enough to remember maxconsole, and darkalex who wrote the CFW for the PSP, Bowser was the original owner of maxconsole, but sold it to a french guy, again can't remember his name.

But the atmosphere guys are/were the CFW guru's for the switch, without them and their code, none of the stuff that's now available would have been possible.

 

[BigOnYa]

Well the "hacker" Gary Bowser is afaik still in prison for the nintendo SXOS modchip

He is out of prison now, got out couple years ago, living in Canada, but he owes big N millions which he realistically will never be able to repay. He has health issues also, hardly can get around much. Yet the other guys you thinking of, Max "MAXiMiLiEN" Louarn, or the Chinese person involved, has never faced any punishment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Xecuter
Many believe, including myself, Max is the real person behind MIG. Time will tell I guess.

 

[janobi]

He is out of prison now, got out couple years ago, living in Canada, but he owes big N millions which he realistically will never be able to repay. He has health issues also, hardly can get around much. Yet the other guys you thinking of, Max "MAXiMiLiEN" Louarn, or the Chinese person involved, has never faced any punishment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Xecuter
Many believe, including myself, Max is the real person behind MIG. Time will tell I guess.

Im old enough to have been around the scene and seen all of this stuff first hand. Louarn I believe bought maxconsole from Bowser, or that was the cover story. Xecuter was never able be extradited or anything, so was never going to face any charges.

There were some british people involved too, I can't remember the UK reseller site, but he was on the team, and running the UK operation for reselling of hardware.

 

[realtimesave]

The best scenario would be to keep your console updated, since there are not going to be any exploits in the lifetime of your handheld. The clowns who will tell you otherwise do not understand what is involved and why it is different this time versus the original Switch. Missing out of the complete Switch 2 experience waiting for Godot to hack it is peak sadgamerboy™ behavior.

I agree. I just haven't yet updated my switch cos I haven't turned it on in a while. It needs more games ! My PS5 however I hacked and recently I update the FW because hacked PS5 sucks!! it's like having a half-bricked system.