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Hello guys, I am wondering if I can swap the housing from a day1 Nintendo Switch to the New 2019 Switch with improved battery life.
I just wanna use the old housing in the new one. Do you think is possible?


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Hello guys, I am wondering if I can swap the housing from a day1 Nintendo Switch to the New 2019 Switch with improved battery life.
I just wanna use the old housing in the new one. Do you think is possible?


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I don't see why not, besides a different SoC and maybe some differences on the board, they should be the same, but why? The housing is identical, no?
Replacing the shell on the Switch is not the easiest thing, the touch digitizer and screen are glued pretty well in place and require some heat to remove. As does the battery.
 

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afaik the improved power is due to the improved Soc, the battery afaik is the exact same battery, so while you probably could swap the housing, you wouldn't see any gains in terms of battery life (except for the difference in terms of a new battery vs a used battery)

also there are different revisions of the screen, i know some switches have a different backlight setup, so even if the display works on an old switch the backlight might not
 
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afaik the improved power is due to the improved Soc, the battery afaik is the exact same battery, so while you probably could swap the housing, you wouldn't see any gains in terms of battery life (except for the difference in terms of a new battery vs a used battery)

also there are different revisions of the screen, i know some switches have a different backlight setup, so even if the display works on an old switch the backlight might not
I have switched monitors on laptops with different resolution and they just worked fine. Of course, as long as those monitor are "known" by the motherboard. Hence, my guess is that you can switch panel on the switch without caring about the variant. Backlighting is part of the display hardware.
 
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Ok thanks for the replies, the point of doing this it's just because I bought a custom housing for my day1 switch and now am gonna buy the new switch and wanted to use that custom one on the new switch


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I have switched monitors on laptops with different resolution and they just worked fine. Of course, as long as those monitor are "known" by the motherboard. Hence, my guess is that you can switch panel on the switch without caring about the variant. Backlighting is part of the display hardware.
i have fixed a few switches and some combinations of screen/board do not work, the screen itself works if you hold it up to a light but the backlight doesn't power on and there is a visible difference in the backlight flex cable which is separate from the main display flex
 

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Ok thanks for the replies, the point of doing this it's just because I bought a custom housing for my day1 switch and now am gonna buy the new switch and wanted to use that custom one on the new switch


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That bit of information would have solved some confusion about your question to begin with.

But yes. Your old housing should work just fine with the new Switch model.
 

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But I don't want to replace the screen, I just want to exchange the plastic cover like this in the picture
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I have switched monitors on laptops with different resolution and they just worked fine. Of course, as long as those monitor are "known" by the motherboard. Hence, my guess is that you can switch panel on the switch without caring about the variant. Backlighting is part of the display hardware.
It appears the backlight is on a separate ribbon cable on the Switch. But in all likelihood they didn't change the cables/connectors for the LCD, since it seems like a pretty minimal redesign.
In principle, is it possible to combine two switches (new series and unpatched one) in order to get an unpatched new unit?
As you may already know, there are two ways to hack a Switch, either through the RCM exploit which requires an unpatched SoC, or through software exploits like Caffeine which requires a sufficiently old firmware version.

Sadly, the SoC and NAND are tied together by the encryption keys used to encrypt the NAND being stored in the SoC, so you'd have to swap out both parts, which even if the old and new SoC are pin compatible, swapping out the SoC and NAND for an old model one would essentially just turn your new model Switch into an OG one.

Even if you could somehow get the keys from the new console, and re-encrypt the NAND of the old console (with a sufficiently old firmware version to be exploited, currently <= 4.1) to match that of the new one so you could keep the new SoC, you would run into issues with the fuse count not matching when trying to load an older firmware leading to the system not booting, nevermind that such an old firmware wouldn't have all the changes added to support the new SoC, and nevermind that by the point you have enough access to dump the keys you are already able to launch payloads anyway.

Since you can't downgrade a Switch even by physically replacing the NAND chip, and switching out both the SoC and NAND in this case would be rather pointless (even if it might theoretically work), the only way the new model Switch is ever getting hacked is if a new RCM or firmware exploit is found, or some sort of hardware exploit is discovered (think glitch chips on the 360)
I think it's likely to happen eventually, but for now anyone wanting to hack their new model Switch (or Switch Lite) will just have to hang on.
There's no way to cheat that, I'm afraid.
 
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Sadly, the SoC and NAND are tied together by the encryption keys used to encrypt the NAND being stored in the SoC, so you'd have to swap out both parts, which even if the old and new SoC are pin compatible, swapping out the SoC and NAND for an old model one would essentially just turn your new model Switch into an OG one.
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There's no way to cheat that, I'm afraid.
Clear enough, thanks!
 

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Yes. But why?
also there are different revisions of the screen, i know some switches have a different backlight setup, so even if the display works on an old switch the backlight might not
Any display should Just Work(tm) on any hardware variation. I don’t think they ever changed the connector or anything like that.
Sadly, the SoC and NAND are tied together by the encryption keys used to encrypt the NAND being stored in the SoC, so you'd have to swap out both parts, which even if the old and new SoC are pin compatible, swapping out the SoC and NAND for an old model one would essentially just turn your new model Switch into an OG one.
SPOILER: old SoCs aren’t compatible with new boards :P

also downgrading is possible in some circumstances. Though the only circumstance where is possible on Mariko is completely pointless and actually makes you lose exploits (8.0.x ——> 7.0.x)

bis keys aren’t in the SoC. They’re derived from keys in the SoC though :shrek:
 

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