Discussion Superban : Better update firmware before hacking

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by kkcheong, Aug 29, 2018.

  1. kkcheong
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    kkcheong GBAtemp Regular

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    I am at 4.0.1. is there any reason I should hold my Switch at this firmware at all?

    Superban will make us unable to update firmware. Maybe I should just update it to 5.1.0.

    I know about non fuse burning firmware update. Is it worth to go this path?
     
  2. Revard

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    Consider this: if you get a superban on v5.1.0 you can't update your firmware, only with the non fuse burning method.
    So why not update with the non fuse burning method now and enjoy its pros?
     
  3. Ashura66

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    Well there is one reason to stay on 4.0.1 and that's the EVENTUAL POSSIBILITY of a cold/warmboot option that may or may not come. And yes, updating without burning fuses is worth it if you ever want to go back to a previous firmware version. Say for example you update to 5.1.0 to play recent games but then a cold/warmboot option appears for 4.0.1 and you want to take advantage of it. If you don't have any burtn fuses, you can downgrade to it
     
  4. Punche

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    I'd stay on 4.0.1 for now, Some sort of soft mod will most likely be available in the future. You could always update your switch with Rajkosto's ChoidujourNX so you don't burn any fuses!
     
  5. fehlerfrei

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    There is a thread about GDPR. You can use GDPR to unban a Switch. Ask linuxares, he knows how to do it
     
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  6. Ashura66

    Ashura66 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    No you can't. Nintendo is NOT going to unban your Switch. All the GDPR would do is force Nintendo to reveal whatever personal data they have logged on you, it wont get your system unbanned
     
  7. Mr. Wizard

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    I was holding back because of this, once I realized there is more probability of being hit on the head from a falling switch, in the middle of an empty field, I updated and haven't looked back.
     
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  8. Ashura66

    Ashura66 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    I mean...you never know right?
     
  9. wurstpistole

    wurstpistole I got 8 warning points

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    Completely wrong. You can update your firmware perfectly with any .xci copy of a game that brings the firmware with it, or with ChoirDujourNX directly on your Switch.
     
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  10. Mr. Wizard

    Mr. Wizard Ending the spread of bullshit one thread at a time

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    If you mean by ripping the firmware update from an xci yes, sxos cannot mount xci that require a higher fw version than you have so you cannot natively update from an xci.
     
  11. wurstpistole

    wurstpistole I got 8 warning points

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    That was news to me. But then again, as soon as the first cartridge with 6.0.0 on it appears, we'll have the files for ChoiDujour anyway.
     
  12. Draxzelex

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    Or you could just download the firmware update files yourself then extract them from your rawnand dump with hacdiskmount/ use memloader to extract the files.
     
  13. tunip3

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    @linuxares what is it?
     
  14. Ericthegreat

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    You can update manually using something like hacdiskmount or choidujorenx.
     
  15. Mr. Wizard

    Mr. Wizard Ending the spread of bullshit one thread at a time

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    I'm surprised that most people don't know you can grab the bins from that x site, the name comes up in many threads and I'm curious as to why it's allowed but hey, whatever.
     
  16. wurstpistole

    wurstpistole I got 8 warning points

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    Cant if superbanned
     
  17. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Guru

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    Good point. Don't worry, some lucky person who survived can download the update for the rest of us.
     
  18. Nicola

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    The situation is still confusing.
    -If i update with choidujorenx (without burning any fuses) and play online, is there any chance of getting banned?
    -For a future, hypothetical, EmuNAND, does your current official FW version even matter if you can do Fusee Gelee?
    -Can Fusee Gelee overwrite the FW to boot into CFW without needing a jig at every boot?
    -Assuming a CFW that loads backup games is not possible (it is, but assuming it is not), could Fusee Gelee do everything a warm boot exploit do from within the Switch OS? For example on PS3 you could mount (and run) backup games from OFW, but you needed a way of triggering it, my question is: does Fusee Gelee have the same amount of "access" to the Switch OS than a warm boot exploit would have? I would think a warm boot exploit from the Switch OS is more likely to be able to modify the Switch OS in real time than Fusee Gelee, that is run before the OS.
    -Given the history of game console hacking, i don't think there will ever be much point in downgrading if you can run Fusee Gelee, especially because newer games will require new FW version. This is especially true if there will be EmuNAND like on the 3DS, which allows you to play original games online, while still being able to boot into CFW and play backups offline.
    -Just like you can update without burning fuses now, i guess in the future, if needed, old edited FW version will be releases with a change in the number of burned fuses they require to run.
     
    Last edited by Nicola, Aug 30, 2018
  19. Chizko

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    Waith for emunand if you don't need 5.1 for your games. The question is if you can be banned?, emunand can be useless. You need online? you need coldboot?
     
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  20. Mr. Wizard

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    Personally I would consider both of these as a privilege.
     
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