Settlement in George Hotz Case

[ShadowSoldier]

So in other words: settlement, both sides did not gain much, geohotz have to pay for each new hack he makes towards Sony of america, etc. etc.
So way are people having arguements now?

We don't know if sides gained anything or lost anything or have to do anything. Hotz isn't allowed to post what the settlement details were.

 

[Rydian]

Hey Mods, what's with all the censorship?Stop trolling and you won't get censored. Do you ever even read the replies people make to your posts? I'm willing to bet it's a no, because you seem unaware that even normal users tell you to stop trolling and go away when you come into a thread. People call you "fanatic" because you are. It's okay to have an opinion, but you're irrational about it, and needlessly insulting.

If you were a sports fan I'm willing to bet you'd be the guy that writes "THE MARYLAND HAWKS *** **** MOTHERS **** ALL NIGHT ****" on the opponent's cars with your keys when they lose a game. I don't know if that's what you intend to look like, but when you go around posting nothing but insults and taunts and irrational hatred for things you disagree with and people who disagree with you, it's what you look like.

So basically.......Sony not only managed to completely own Hotz, but they managed to make him make himself look like a douche for bailing to South America off money people donated?Last I checked that was only a rumor.

he's an idiot and he didn't do a good enough job of covering his sorry ass tracks. Nice job, asshole!!! Now you've fucked us all over, and homebrew dev's are gonna run for the hills....giant douche!!I have a question. What exactly did he do to make you curse him like that?
Because I'm getting the feeling you have no clue what's actually going on (just judging from the fact that you're not even aware that he didn't lose the case, which is what this entire thread is about). The precedent we feared was not set.

well, sony wasted millions of dollars destroying their reputation by showing themselves to be an inherently anti-consumer company.... to groups of people like us.
The average person doesn't even know what's going on. These types of cases come up a lot, but rarely get far or big enough to attract the public's attention at large.

Proof? Try hacking an account of someone who has a password like this:

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gztr54$$$5612§46ujnbvcÜijiuuuuuuuu8ez26stg2666666&%43wwzyya$$$561
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gztgfxwgztr54$$$5612§46ujnbvcÜijiuuuuuuuu8ez26stg2666666&%43wwzyya
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Okay. Hash the password as CRC32 and it can be hacked in 24 hours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collision_(computer_science)

QUOTE(twiztidsinz @ Apr 11 2011, 07:15 PM) Calling someone wrong is not an insult... especially when they're wrong.
Which makes you wrong again.

Do we tally measures of wrongness like scores in playground games now?
No, we discuss the situation and facts at hand. "You're wrong" with no actual reason or citation is just a waste of space and time, and just encourages the same in return. When it stops being a war of who says "wrong" more, and starts being a war of facts, THEN a proper conclusion can be reached (and the side left saying "YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO" is obviously the troll).

QUOTE(tbgtbg @ Apr 11 2011, 07:18 PM)

It was a civil suit, not a criminal case, he wasn't going to jail regardless.

The suit itself wasn't, but they claimed he violated the computer fraud and abuse act, which does have criminal penalties such as jail time.

QUOTE(gameandmatch @ Apr 11 2011, 07:59 PM)

So way are people having arguements now?

Geohot thread = testosterone thread.

 

[machomuu]

You make the mistake of thinking the only only way to gain access to the account would be with a password which is 100% WRONG, so your proof is proof of your ignorance on the subject.

Insulting someone again? Hm..I think you are the kind of person that doesnt know otherwise. Drink some milk and relax kid.

Calling someone wrong is not an insult... especially when they're wrong.
Which makes you wrong again.

Calling someone ignorant who even dont know who you are is not an insult to you? You really have some balls. Again, relax.

GamingTrolling forum on the internet. Relax.

Fixed.

WiiBricker, it's one thing to bash other members, but don't insult GBAtemp.

 

[Raika]

If it ends like this then they shouldn't have even bothered to start this case to begin with.

 

[Rydian]

If it ends like this then they shouldn't have even bothered to start this case to begin with.

Yeah, they need to get their magical crystal balls that can see into the future repaired.

 

[machomuu]

If it ends like this then they shouldn't have even bothered to start this case to begin with.

Basically. The only things that got accomplished was Sony wasting money, Geohot rapping, and a bunch of trolling on gaming/hacking forums.

 

[SPH73]

Hey Mods, what's with all the censorship?

Seriously whomever is moderating this topic really needs to lose their moderator privilidges. There was nothing offensive about any of these posts. Simply people speaking their minds. You might not agree with what I have to say, and I might not agree with some of my oppenents, but there's NOTHING wrong with this conversation and you're acting like a censor happy goon.

Discussion is good, but most of the time yours is just mindless fanatism blinded by anti-Sony hate. Tone that down, otherwise I'll keep trashing your posts, since it's just blatant flamebait.

You only see it that way because you're a "team player." Which is my polite way of saying "fanboy." Meanwhile I'm just brutally honest. And I have already admitted that I love Sony hardware and just hate Sony corporate.

But hey, you keep being a Sony cheerleader. It will serve you well when they use the precedent established by this case to attack GBAtemp. Its only a matter of time. This site has been on the anti-piracy brigade's radar for a very long time. And although Sony clearly LOST this case (they look like a joke now) they did gain one important foothold in the battle against homebrew and piracy. And other companies will take that ball and run with it.

Mark my words...

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BTW, you didn't just censor me. you censored other people who had valid opinions as well. This isn't about behaviour, its about censorship.

 

[twiztidsinz]

@SPH73: QQMOAR

 

[SPH73]

@SPH73: QQMOAR

Grow up and quit stalking me. I was actually defending your right to speak.

 

[WiiUBricker]

So in other words: settlement, both sides did not gain much, geohotz have to pay for each new hack he makes towards Sony of america, etc. etc.
So way are people having arguements now?

We don't know if sides gained anything or lost anything or have to do anything. Hotz isn't allowed to post what the settlement details were.

Yes we know. Read the leaked court document: http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f6...stipulation.pdf

To stay on topic: I dont give a shit about Sony and GeoHot. If I like the hardware, I will purchase it, period.

 

[machomuu]

Hey Mods, what's with all the censorship?

Seriously whomever is moderating this topic really needs to lose their moderator privilidges. There was nothing offensive about any of these posts. Simply people speaking their minds. You might not agree with what I have to say, and I might not agree with some of my oppenents, but there's NOTHING wrong with this conversation and you're acting like a censor happy goon.
Discussion is good, but most of the time yours is just mindless fanatism blinded by anti-Sony hate. Tone that down, otherwise I'll keep trashing your posts, since it's just blatant flamebait.

BTW, you didn't just censor me. you censored other people who had valid opinions as well. This isn't about behaviour, its about censorship.

The censorship is the consequence of the behavior.

QUOTE(SPH73 @ Apr 11 2011, 08:09 PM) QUOTE(twiztidsinz @ Apr 11 2011, 09:08 PM)

@SPH73: QQMOAR

Grow up and quit stalking me. I was actually defending your right to speak.

How is he stalking you? You posted on a public forum. You're talkig about his freedom of speech and he's expressing it. At you.

 

[twiztidsinz]

You make the mistake of thinking the only only way to gain access to the account would be with a password which is 100% WRONG, so your proof is proof of your ignorance on the subject.

Insulting someone again? Hm..I think you are the kind of person that doesnt know otherwise. Drink some milk and relax kid.

Calling someone wrong is not an insult... especially when they're wrong.
Which makes you wrong again.

Calling someone ignorant who even dont know who you are is not an insult to you? You really have some balls. Again, relax.

No, you see YOU called yourself ignorant.
I said 'your ignorance on the subject'. And ignorance isn't an insult either since no one knows everything about everything, so everyone is ignorant in some areas.

 

[raulpica]

Congrats to whoever made this entire thread a mess.

Closing.

You only see it that way because you're a "team player." Which is my polite way of saying "fanboy." Meanwhile I'm just brutally honest. And I have already admitted that I love Sony hardware and just hate Sony corporate.

But hey, you keep being a Sony cheerleader. It will serve you well when they use the precedent established by this case to attack GBAtemp. Its only a matter of time. This site has been on the anti-piracy brigade's radar for a very long time. And although Sony clearly LOST this case (they look like a joke now) they did gain one important foothold in the battle against homebrew and piracy. And other companies will take that ball and run with it.

Mark my words...

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BTW, you didn't just censor me. you censored other people who had valid opinions as well. This isn't about behaviour, its about censorship.

Me being a Sony fanboy is probably the farthest thing from reality ever. I don't even like their hardware that much. But hey, you're free to believe what you want

I had to trash the other posts because they were replies to your post, and it wouldn't have made much sense to keep them there with your post missing. Nothing more.