Pre owned region free ds games

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    I find pre owned ds games online claiming the games are region free. This also happens with consoles? Are they telling the truth? How do they do it?
     
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    The console itself is region free
     
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    Did not know, thanks! Both ds and ds lite?
     
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    I think the DS is region free, DSi and DS3 are not.
     
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    Ds lite?
     
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    Both DS and DS Lite will play games from any region
    The DSi and 3DS will play DS games from any region too but DSi and 3DS games are region locked
     
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    Thank you:yay:
     
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    This is true, but region-lock is up to the developer (although perhaps there is/was pressure from Nintendo who may not have accepted region-free games onto their system without a good reason.)

    Most notably, the English versions of Pokémon Black/White and Black 2/White 2 are region-free (on DSi/3DS), the other languages are not. They did it this way because they needed the game to run on both American and European systems, but didn't want to bother making separate American and European versions.

    This is also possible for 3DS games, although I don't know of any games which take advantage of that. Pokémon are technically region-free, but the update partition on the cartridge is not, so the update check fails and the game can't load.
     
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    Ok, thanks for the reply!
     
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    Also, as far as I know, these are the only DSi-enhanced games which happen to be region-free. So if you were looking into buying those online, you can safely get an American or European copy and they'll work fine regardless of the region of your DSi/3DS.

    Of course, if you're planning on playing the games on an original DS or Lite, then you don't have to worry about region locks at all, as mentioned earlier.
     
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    Thanks
     
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    "An Allegedly Free Game is a game you can play for free, for widely variable definitions of the words Game, Play, and Free"
    The first and only* physical commercial region free 3DS title is the Louvre guide (I guess you could call it region locked using an atypical definition of region free, since it's only sold there, lol)

    * ironically, it has 5 or 6 monolingual editions
     
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    Do you think you can modify that partition in any way to make these games region free? It wouldn't be that useful I'm just interested to know.
     
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    The cartridges are read-only.
     
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    What if you solder to the chip?
     
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    Most (card1) games are made of hard ROM or PROM, so nothing to gain (since the GBA, the roms also have "smarts" for supporting sequential access, hardware encryption since the DS, etc)

    card2 games are on a rewritable chip but the largest related achievement was erasing one with an early 3DS save manager, lol

    But why bother rewriting anything when there are actual flashcards like the Sky and Stargate?
    Of course you would still need signature patches since we can't sign gamecard headers...
     
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    Thanks, I was just wondering nothing I needed.
     
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    By the way, for completeness, while DS games (NTR-????-???) are region free as far as all DS-compatible consoles care, Korean and Chinese DS games are individually rigged to identify the region of the console and not run on foreign ones (a limitation that's easy to remove from a backup, if you want to try them)
     
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    Could be useful, good to know.:)
     
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