Polyamory/Polygamy

[Lacius]

It also might cause unnecessary issues down the line and cause in many divorce. and what happens when they divorce?
who gets what?
too many legal issues

Because divorce in monogamous relationships is never complicated.

 

[DoubleeDee]

Yes, I need mo' hoes.

 

[TheJeweler]

This is a difficult topic, most people would assume that it could only be a guy with a bunch of dames or something right, but nobody ever wants to think about it the other way around right. Hell I've actually fantasized once or twice about being in a situation where I could be with multiple partners who loved me as well as eachother but the problem is that finding one is hard enough. People should focus on finding one person to love them and if there should be others well then try and figure out how to work them into your life.

 

[XDel]

1 Woman is good enough for me, 2 women would be 1 to many, plus it's kind of impersonal.

Oh sorry honey, I love you and all, but well you see... I need variety. Hell with that. I doubt many men would be up for being the "second husband".

Then again a lot of people are twisted and emotionally detached now a days so I guess anything goes.

 

[totalnoob617]

the government has no business regulating what consenting adults do , it should be legal ,but mormons are freaks, just look at the romneys

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

A lot of people are predicting that this is destined to be the next big cultural tug-of-war once the issue of gay marriage is settled once and for all. I guess this thread will be a head start on the upcoming arguments.

Once this gets legalized the next big thing will be for in family marriage.... You know because marrying your cousin is like so last year, this year it has to be your daughter or sister.... lol

 

[TheJeweler]

the government has no business regulating what consenting adults do , it should be legal ,but mormons are freaks, just look at the romneys

Its not really what the adults do but more like the consequences

 

[XDel]

Its not really what the adults do but more like the consequences

"consequences" Now that's a word I don't hear very much about any more...

 

[TheJeweler]

People dont really think about the future anymore, my generation is pissing me off

 

[totalnoob617]

Its not really what the adults do but more like the consequences

yea im not endorsing it, but is the difference between living with a bunch of women like hugh heffner and some religious fruits doing it, the only difference really is a piece of paper ,

 

[XDel]

People dont really think about the future anymore, my generation is pissing me off

This is more of a "today spawns tomorrow" kind of quote, but it means the same as what you said.


Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained. A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless. - Master Yoda

One reason I have always loved these films to much, and hate to see modern politics and what not injected into them. The Wise elders do not need to bother with debate, they have already fought the internal debate long ago and understand the basic relation behind cause and effect, what leads to serenity and what leads to anxiety strife.

On a side note, I believe even prostitution should be legal and regulated, but at the same time I believe we need a culture that puts the sovereignty of the family first. One who's education is for the benefit and well being of the individual, I.E. in relation to needs over wants, long term preparation over instant gratification, and so on. Likewise the media needs to be constructed in a similar manner, quite the contrary of the manner it is presently constructed, which is to manipulate certain natural impulses and dreams, and inject them with fruitless extremes, creating crack heads out of people so to speak.
A society which strives towards health, discipline, and wisdom would not have such a huge desire for prostitutes, but would have an easier time at forming real human bonds and relations.

Sadly, such societies generally can only be found within rain forests, and other remote areas far away from "civilization", or end up conquered or assimilated.

 

[tatripp]

yea im not endorsing it, but is the difference between living with a bunch of women like hugh heffner and some religious fruits doing it, the only difference really is a piece of paper ,

I do find it interesting how people worship Hugh Heffner but hate polygamy.

 

[TheJeweler]

On a side note, I believe even prostitution should be legal and regulated, but at the same time I believe we need a culture that puts the sovereignty of the family first. One who's education is for the benefit and well being of the individual, I.E. in relation to needs over wants, long term preparation over instant gratification, and so on. Likewise the media needs to be constructed in a similar manner, quite the contrary of the manner it is presently constructed, which is to manipulate certain natural impulses and dreams, and inject them with fruitless extremes, creating crack heads out of people so to speak.
A society which strives towards health, discipline, and wisdom would not have such a huge desire for prostitutes, but would have an easier time at forming real human bonds and relations.

Sadly, such societies generally can only be found within rain forests, and other remote areas far away from "civilization", or end up conquered or assimilated.

Couldn't agree with you more, except for that whole rain forest society thing. Not all of those kinds of societies work that way, hell there are some where the men lounge around all day while all of the women do all the hunting and caring of the children.

I do find it interesting how people worship Hugh Heffner but hate polygamy.

I wouldn't call what Hefner does polygamy, or even polyamory for that matter, those women choose to be there for many different reasons mainly money, I doubt any of them actually like Hefner they just put up with him.

 

[Clydefrosch]

personally, people should only get a single chance in life to form a partnership with anyone. if they mess that one up, they may remain alone forever. maybe then they'd start to appreciate the whole concept again

 

[TheJeweler]

personally, people should only get a single chance in life to form a partnership with anyone. if they mess that one up, they may remain alone forever. maybe then they'd start to appreciate the whole concept again

Thats a bit harsh isn't it? If someone were to screw up that single chance that they had then they could decide that now they have no other choice but to live a life of debauchery.

 

[XDel]

Couldn't agree with you more, except for that whole rain forest society thing. Not all of those kinds of societies work that way, hell there are some where the men lounge around all day while all of the women do all the hunting and caring of the children.

Ha ha, I don't think anyone in a rain forest has the opportunity to lounge around.

My point is that they have less to be distracted with, less trivial b.s. in their lives, and the primary focus is to stay alive, be warm, and when the work is done, get cozy. For this reason, their families are really close.

Granted, in some tribes polygamy is practiced, but it seems that where ever there is polygamy, there are disputes.

 

[FAST6191]

personally, people should only get a single chance in life to form a partnership with anyone. if they mess that one up, they may remain alone forever. maybe then they'd start to appreciate the whole concept again

Purely from a would be moral perspective I would probably go so far as to say that line of logic is disgusting but I am intrigued by it.

Biology would say that is not the done thing. Now I agree biological urges are quite able to be overcome and it is often wise to do so, especially as science has made life easy*, but what would be the benefit here? *example- biology tells me to eat all day because if I am living off seeds and roots I have to so as to stay alive, right now I can eat raw sugar, fat and salt all day (something highly sought because it was so rare in seeds and roots) and it would not cost an awful lot to pull off. Because I do not want to be a fat bastard I ignore the urge to eat sugar, fat and salt all day.
Where in history, beyond the rose tinted stuff, was the concept of "partner for life" appreciated? Equally history is noted to be full of people without a clue about science and with some seriously questionable philosophies so why should I pay attention to them?
My 14 year old self was an idiot, my 20 year old self was not much better, at 25 I was quite different again and it only goes on from there. Why be bound by a choice made at a given point? Going back to biology humans have one of the longest development times of any animal, a period during which mistakes and learning are the object of the game, and many would argue it is one of things that has led to us being the dominant species on the planet.
Illness, injury? If my would be partner goes of the deep end or was faking it am I stuck?
Numbers wise there are how many billion spread over how far? A few billion factorial is a large number indeed which would seem to indicate that should I make a choice for a partner it would then be something of an arbitrary one as it would be impossible to interview the lot, if I am making an arbitrary decision does that not mean the results are somewhat negligible?

 

[KingVamp]

Its not really what the adults do but more like the consequences

So, tell me the consequences of a non-cult polygamy/polyamory.

I wouldn't call what Hefner does polygamy, or even polyamory for that matter, those women choose to be there for many different reasons mainly money, I doubt any of them actually like Hefner they just put up with him.

I was thinking the same thing.

Granted, in some tribes polygamy is practiced, but it seems that where ever there is polygamy, there are disputes.

How many polygamy tribes or tribes in general do you know personally?

There are no disputes in a "regular" family?

 

[TheJeweler]

So, tell me the consequences of a non-cult polygamy/polyamory.

I take it you are for Polygamy/ polyamory? anyways my reply wasn't to the topic in general but the whole "govt should let people do whatever they choose to". As I've said before, finding one person who you can truely love is hard enough.

 

[Lacius]

anyways my reply wasn't to the topic in general but the whole "govt should let people do whatever they choose to".

As long as no one's rights are being violated and no one is physically harmed, people should be allowed to do what they choose.

As I've said before, finding one person who you can truely love is hard enough.

Whether or not something is difficult isn't reason to make it illegal.