Misc Pokemon Cheaters Banned

[Fat D]

I do not believe banning is an answer to anything. sure, it keeps out people who cheated once, and it is an efficient punishment, but that's like shooting a speeder on sight in my opinion.

I believe that one should rather ban all "unfair" pokémon (pokémon too powerful to obtain legitimately) from online and wi-fi battles (the pokémon, not the trainers) as well as not allowing obviously "cheated" pokémon in trades.

This way, one could anihilate all harm while not punishing people too harshly for some minor offenses.

 

[JPH]

sweet...pokemon online sucks anyways.

 

[Maikel Steneker]

How does Nintendo detect these people?

Well, I think that by using the codes the memory is modified and therefore recognizable for Nintendo.

 

[jtroye32]

so stupid, they're just pokemon its not like they are real

Cheating in WoW ( or any other MMORPG for that matter ) is done different and is even more pervertic than some stupid CS:S n00b running around with a pokemon cheat. Those are cry-babies and dealing with them is like banning people with dirty faces from a clean room while all the rest is trampling in with shoes full of dirt.

It's okay that they try to do something but banning "obvious" cheaters which every idiot on the surface of earth notices and will not play against is hardly any valuable anti-cheat mentality. Reminds me a lot on VAC/Punkbuster: lots of hot vapour and nothing behind it... especially nothing noteworthy.

Anti-Cheat has anyways to be done on the software level and not the hardware ( aka wifi ) level. This is just big time bullshit to make yourself look better than you are. Games which allow cheating already are doomed. No way to fix this with hardware level mugging around. It's like a hydra: kill a handfull of obvious cheaters just to gain a box full of new ones.

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sounds like someone got banned

 

[Seyiji]

sweet...pokemon online sucks anyways.

sounds like someone got banned

Looks like someone needs to learn how to use quote tags

 

[WarmWoollySheep]

A better plan would have been to send all the cheaters to a different server.

I agree 100%. Put all the idiots on one server and let them run wild.

If you ban them they'll find a way around it, and end up back with good customers who want to actually play.

 

[Psyfira]

I do not believe banning is an answer to anything. sure, it keeps out people who cheated once, and it is an efficient punishment, but that's like shooting a speeder on sight in my opinion.

On the contrary, banning users is the best idea. It's a deterrent to some other players who may be considering cheating, they won't bother if they think they'll get banned.

Also here's a thought: is it possible to cheat on a legal DS cartridge of the game? (I know nothing about Pokemon, action replay, gamesharks and the suchlike). If not, then banning all cheaters = banning pirate game users, which from Nintendo's POV is a fantastic idea.

 

[Whiternoise]

A better plan would have been to send all the cheaters to a different server.

Diablo 2 styley?

That's a good point, but it would require a fair effort on Ninty's part, and i think banning is faster and fairer.

So, they're banning all wifi connectivity? Not just GTS, but trading/battling too?

Unfortunately, i would guess it's all too easy to use pokesav to make a believable pokemon (since you can edit box poke's).

So.. does this mean that people who've bought the game now can't play it if they cheat? (forgive me for also being a noob on this subject, but i'm assuming the Action Replay thing is something that goes between the Cart and Slot-1?)

 

[amptor]

lmao @ playing pokemon on the internet.

 

[dbgtdob]

A better plan would have been to send all the cheaters to a different server.


Diablo 2 styley?

That's a good point, but it would require a fair effort on Ninty's part, and i think banning is faster and fairer.

So, they're banning all wifi connectivity? Not just GTS, but trading/battling too?

Unfortunately, i would guess it's all too easy to use pokesav to make a believable pokemon (since you can edit box poke's).

So.. does this mean that people who've bought the game now can't play it if they cheat? (forgive me for also being a noob on this subject, but i'm assuming the Action Replay thing is something that goes between the Cart and Slot-1?)

yes nintendo bans your friend code, of course the work around is you start all over again lol, if you delete your save game you will get a new friend code when you connect the same for flash carts, except with a flash cart you can back up your save before you go online, so if they do ban your friend code you can just get yourself a new one with the save file that you had before you went online.

 

[Dragonlord]

so stupid, they're just pokemon its not like they are real

Cheating in WoW ( or any other MMORPG for that matter ) is done different and is even more pervertic than some stupid CS:S n00b running around with a pokemon cheat. Those are cry-babies and dealing with them is like banning people with dirty faces from a clean room while all the rest is trampling in with shoes full of dirt.

It's okay that they try to do something but banning "obvious" cheaters which every idiot on the surface of earth notices and will not play against is hardly any valuable anti-cheat mentality. Reminds me a lot on VAC/Punkbuster: lots of hot vapour and nothing behind it... especially nothing noteworthy.

Anti-Cheat has anyways to be done on the software level and not the hardware ( aka wifi ) level. This is just big time bullshit to make yourself look better than you are. Games which allow cheating already are doomed. No way to fix this with hardware level mugging around. It's like a hydra: kill a handfull of obvious cheaters just to gain a box full of new ones.

sounds like someone got banned

Sounds like somebody knowing about game development and how cheating is done ( simply because to fight cheating you have to know how cheating is done ).

 

[Sneakz]

Best possible soloution=Kill Slot-1/2 (or 3 ) Device users, is it possible I have no clue, but given the fact that this IS Gbatemp and most of us here DO have an Flash cart of somesort, causing most of us to be playing Pokemon on said flash cart (not me =) this would spell doom for most of yahz ....

 

[Mewgia]

@sneakz: afaik, they can't ban flashcart users because there's no way to identify them vs a real cart.

I do not believe banning is an answer to anything. sure, it keeps out people who cheated once, and it is an efficient punishment, but that's like shooting a speeder on sight in my opinion.
On the contrary, banning users is the best idea. It's a deterrent to some other players who may be considering cheating, they won't bother if they think they'll get banned.

Also here's a thought: is it possible to cheat on a legal DS cartridge of the game? (I know nothing about Pokemon, action replay, gamesharks and the suchlike). If not, then banning all cheaters = banning pirate game users, which from Nintendo's POV is a fantastic idea.

It's VERY easy to cheat on a legit cart, that's what an Action Reaply does. Two seconds on google and you could have figured that out for yourself >_>

 

[TLSpartan]

All Nintendo have to do is come on to GBAtemp and find the pokesav topic. Then all they have to do is ban all the people(the ones that show their friend codes) who have used pokesav for cheating on Wi-Fi.

 

[Mewgia]

wth the_last_spartan, that would be kinda stupid...

 

[TLSpartan]

It would work though

 

[squeaks]

Hope they won't ban flashcard users, cause that would harm the Wifi Connection even more, or ?

From a marketing point of view eversince flshcarts for NDS started selling, sales for the DS consoles has jumped x folds. Nintendo wouldn't.

 

[squeaks]

Well I hope they follow suite with other Wi-Fi games, all this cheating completely destroys the point of Nintendo WFC, I don't really care too much about Pokemon, but in stuff like Mario Kart its well annoying.

VERY. Them cheaters should be skinned alive, have their eyeballs plucked out and showered with salt, then fed to the pgis.

 

[squeaks]

so stupid, they're just pokemon its not like they are real

Cheating in WoW ( or any other MMORPG for that matter ) is done different and is even more pervertic than some stupid CS:S n00b running around with a pokemon cheat. Those are cry-babies and dealing with them is like banning people with dirty faces from a clean room while all the rest is trampling in with shoes full of dirt.

It's okay that they try to do something but banning "obvious" cheaters which every idiot on the surface of earth notices and will not play against is hardly any valuable anti-cheat mentality. Reminds me a lot on VAC/Punkbuster: lots of hot vapour and nothing behind it... especially nothing noteworthy.

Anti-Cheat has anyways to be done on the software level and not the hardware ( aka wifi ) level. This is just big time bullshit to make yourself look better than you are. Games which allow cheating already are doomed. No way to fix this with hardware level mugging around. It's like a hydra: kill a handfull of obvious cheaters just to gain a box full of new ones.

Banned and bitter.

sounds like someone got banned

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[squeaks]

so stupid, they're just pokemon its not like they are real

Cheating in WoW ( or any other MMORPG for that matter ) is done different and is even more pervertic than some stupid CS:S n00b running around with a pokemon cheat. Those are cry-babies and dealing with them is like banning people with dirty faces from a clean room while all the rest is trampling in with shoes full of dirt.

It's okay that they try to do something but banning "obvious" cheaters which every idiot on the surface of earth notices and will not play against is hardly any valuable anti-cheat mentality. Reminds me a lot on VAC/Punkbuster: lots of hot vapour and nothing behind it... especially nothing noteworthy.

Anti-Cheat has anyways to be done on the software level and not the hardware ( aka wifi ) level. This is just big time bullshit to make yourself look better than you are. Games which allow cheating already are doomed. No way to fix this with hardware level mugging around. It's like a hydra: kill a handfull of obvious cheaters just to gain a box full of new ones.

sounds like someone got banned

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Banned and bitter.