Pokemon black/white DSi functions

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Mar 23, 2011
  1. Drohn
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    Can anyone help me with my Cyclo DS iEvolution? I recently bought one because it supports DSi functions. I don't know how I can make the DSi funtions work though, it keeps saying that the DSi sections are missing. I done some googling and it has something to do with the ROM file. Can anyone help me by either;

    - Explain what I need to put the ROM file of my original game on the computer with DSi funtions (and how to do it)
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    you cant add it yourself

    only a few teams know how to properly dump a dsi game

    the (U) black and white are not properly dsi dump'ed
    only the japanese and the french version are dsi dumped

    i doubt it will be properly dumped
    so you cant do anything about it

    1. its in the rom - we dont know how to decrypt a rom file to add stuff to it and its impossible
    2. you can only play a dsi game in dsi mode if it was properly dsi dumped and the (U) black and white are not properly dumped
     
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    I'm sorry I'm quite new to all this. But what do you mean with adding stuff? And do you know if people that dump the DSi Roms use any sort of hardware for it? Or is there some other way? If they use hardware for it do you know where to get this?

    EDIT: Is it really something you need to do in teams? Or can you do it by yourself too if you have the right stuff
     
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    The (E) release is properly dumped.
     
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    no its not. do u have proof?


    EDIT :
    this machine can dump proper dsi games

    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
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    Wow lol how do people make that o.O

    Editted and removed the quotes lol, post was getting a bit big XD
     
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    alot of people can make hardware

    these guys i think do trial and error
    its not hard if you know what you are doing

    and plus you also need software to dump the game
    so you have to make both youself
     
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    Ok I'll probably sound like a super noob now, but what's trial and error? Is it some kind of class in the USA or something?
     
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    ok now you are super fail
    if you dont know what it means then google it
    no its not a class
    its an expression
     
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    AFAIK, only the European, Japanese and French games were dumped properly (with the DSi-Mode parts).

    @OP:
    Only certain release groups have the tools necessary to dump the DSi-Mode section of a rom. The tool isn't available to general public as of now.
    Look at the list below for a few roms that work on the CycloDS iEvolution in DSi-Mode.
    • Tron: Evolution
    • Sonic Classic Collection
    • My Cooking Coach (That's the European title for My Healthy Cooking Coach)
    • Imagine Artist
    • James Cameron's Avatar
    I can't tell you where to download the roms, though.

    Also, you should browse through this thread for a larger list of games that work.
     
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    europe is not dsi dumped
    proven by mbmax and said by a few in gbatemp cheats forum
     
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    If you visit the threads about the (U) releases of Black/White, there are many posts mentionning this is the exact same as the (E) release, but without the DSi parts.

    If the (E) release didn't have it's DSi parts dumped, then the rom file wouldn't be different from the (U) release.

    Were they using the scene release? Some independent people may have dumped it privately for members of other forums and those roms may not have the DSi parts dumped.

    And were they using the latest firmware of the CycloDS iEvolution?
    (Even then, it is still buggy and games with DSi parts dumped may still not be read correctly by the CycloDSi.)

    But the (E) release was dumped by SweeTnDS, which apparently don't have the necessary tools for that.
     
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    Also, kiafazool, you need to calm down a little.

    @OP:
    Sadly, the only way you'll be able to play games in DSi-Mode is by downloading already dumped games. I could argue about the ethics of piracy and whether it's right to download a game online even if you own it but I have a feeling you probably won't care. If you don't mind downloading the games, I suggest you look at the list I posted above and download those games.
     
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    Thanks Soulsnatcher. I have the original versions of both black and white and by law you can only use dumps of your own game (I think) but I think that rule was made so people that didn't buy the game can't play it, and I did buy it:P

    Sorry I'm not really familiar with english expressions, my first language is Dutch.

    Thanks for the help everyone!

    EDIT: Also thanks for that link Soulsnatcher, but I only play Pokemon lol:P
     
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    yea sorry about getting pissed at you
    your english fooled me [​IMG]
     
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    Probably.
    I have figured out a few minutes after I posted that the team that dumped the European version doesn't actually have access to the right dumping tools.
    That, and the fact that YayMii claimed that the European dumps have the DSi parts.
     
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    i just downloaded hex editor
    im gonna check it out

    EDIT:
    the (E) rom by SweeTnDs is identical to the (U) rom by PoleSmokers
     
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    Haha no hard feelings mate you still helped me out a lot! I learned English mainly from watching TV lol [​IMG]
     
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    Pokemon White (france version) works in DSI mode but when you want to activate the C-Gear its says that you need to turn on the wireless in the dsi menu. Is already on maybe some ap
     
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    For the record, no, they aren't.
     

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