Hacking Plutoo : the first Switch system module has fallen

[Quantumcat]

Don't know what it means exactly but thought I'd bring it to your attention as it sounds important

First system module has fallen :)) #switch pic.twitter.com/Nx1UCJb9Jw

— plutoo (@qlutoo) April 4, 2017

 

[Aerocool]

Wow that was fast! I know that no exploits will be made public the next 3 / 4 years but it's awesome to see some progress.

 

[C0ntroller]

As a noob it would be pretty cool, if someone could explain me what do you see there. To me it looks like some sort of commands of the system ^^'

 

[DeslotlCL]

Eh, not going to hype that much, since these guys keep the exploits private for like forever.

 

[8BitWonder]

Eh, not going to hype that much, since these guys keep the exploits private for like forever.

Idk they seem to be ok when it comes to userland stuff. Definitely not kernel though.

 

[DeslotlCL]

Idk they seem to be ok when it comes to userland stuff. Definitely not kernel though.

B-bb-but mah free gamez...

 

[ehnoah]

So is it Userland Access now?

 

[Boogieboo6]

What's their reason for keeping exploits private for so long again? Do they keep it private in hopes it's never patched so there's at least that one exploit at the end of the console's life?

 

[Tomy Sakazaki]

What's their reason for keeping exploits private for so long again? Do they keep it private in hopes it's never patched so there's at least that one exploit at the end of the console's life?

This is one main reason, if you don't divulge any info about how the exploit works the devs of the original software may never know what to patch, eventually when people find another exploit that have the same effect and this new one works better, then they may divulge the info about the older exploit.
When a system update actually fixes some exploit, normally hackers not only divulge how the exploit works but may also release the kit or instructions to actually use it.

 

[dinoson631]

stuff like this makes me believe the ps4 and xbox one have been hacked already and it's a private exploit that if it ever got public, sony and microsoft would act quickly. This is all a guess.

 

[Pippin666]

What's their reason for keeping exploits private for so long again? Do they keep it private in hopes it's never patched so there's at least that one exploit at the end of the console's life?

Most "hackers" hack devices just for the fun of doing it, because they can and have the knowledge. Not everyone is into getting sued by a big company.

Pip'

 

[Kyubnyan]

Why do people assume that there is already an exploit and that devs are hiding it. This is one of the sysmodules nothing more, nothing less. Anyone who thinks they are keeping userland to themselves is extremely naive as to how hacking works.

 

[erfg12]

It usually goes like this...

Find exploit -> reverse engineer addresses -> build a system a normal user can use -> debug it and make sure it doesn't brick a system -> release to public.

At this point people are collaborating and sharing information. Games haven't been dumped yet.

 

[DeslotlCL]

It usually goes like this...

Find exploit -> reverse engineer addresses -> build a system a normal user can use -> debug it and make sure it doesn't brick a system -> release to public.

At this point people are collaborating and sharing information. Games haven't been dumped yet. Once you see games starting to be dumped, that usually means it's getting closer to completion.

Not really, at least about dumped games. The wii u started to see games scene releases way before we were able to run them.

 

[erfg12]

That's true. I updated my response.

 

[proflayton123]

Just Saw this, it's the NS module

 

[the_randomizer]

Hmm, that was fast, and only after a month too, not bad.

 

[Jacklack3]

Guy's now we know the hax thing.

FBItoo
CustomToomes
BOTooW
Browsertoo

 

[DocAmes1980]

He (plutoo) later said that the system module in question was "NS". What NS is responsible for I have no idea.

 

[duffmmann]

stuff like this makes me believe the ps4 and xbox one have been hacked already and it's a private exploit that if it ever got public, sony and microsoft would act quickly. This is all a guess.

Well the PS4 was hacked the other day: http://gbatemp.net/threads/ps4-gets-kernel-level-access-on-fw-4-06.466506/
No CFW or anything like that yet, but its a huge breakthrough that definitely can lead to such things.