Piracy not a crime in European Union

[Veho]

I got what you were saying, but the joke was too good to miss.

And the police enforce the law. That means, they make sure it's obeyed, by force if neccessairy.

 

[Da-Huntha]

Yeah I just said that.

 

[Veho]

The police enforce the law, they don't enforce piracy. Enforcing piracy would mean they make people use pirate software (on pain of pain).

 

[Da-Huntha]

Sure, why not.

 

[Icarus]

Did anyone actually get into trouble from pirating ever ?
Everyone downloads their music or movies from the internet, there's absolutly nothing they can do about this.

 

[adgloride]

Fitting a mod chip or modifying a console in anyway is still illegal. This you need in order to run pirate software. I don't know if this counts for things like the R4 which you don't need to modify anything at all.

 

[Veho]

Did anyone actually get into trouble from pirating ever ?

Well, yes.

(Okay, this wasn't in Europe, Google hates me. But there were occasions in Europe too.)

 

[megabug7]

Maybe they will ban DVD/CD writers or basically anything that can copy media of any type....

Problem solved.

Or... not?

 

[Sinkhead]

Awesome news. I'm sure there's technicalities though

- Sam

 

[Bowser128]

Am I reading something different to everyone else here?

From what I can see, the proposed directive is just to make 'for-profit piracy' prosecution uniformly harsh throughout the EU. It says piracy for private use is excluded from the directive, as they have no plans to make it any more harsh, or to impose any EU wide measures against it. They aren't proposing decriminalisation, they are just making clear that current legislation on 'private use piracy' is not something they want to change in their directive.

Did anyone actually get into trouble from pirating ever ?

Actually yes, recently there were quite a few legal cases (and subsequent massive fines) against some Limewire users.

 

[Codemasterflex]

Fitting a mod chip or modifying a console in anyway is still illegal. 

I doubt painting your console is illegal anywhere.

 

[MajinGohan]

Why should modifying/altering your property be illegal?
Modchips don´t necessarily have to be used for piracy, either.

 

[ishin]

And it piracy IS illegal >_> Here in the Netherlands anyway.
Why else would almost all dvd's feature an intro mentioning the 160.000 euro fine ( somewhere in that direction anyway ) you'll get for piracy

 

[MaHe]

Interesting enough, piracy isn't illegal in Slovenia. We do have a Anti-Piracy Association, but it's just a bunch of morons making lawsuits and stuffing the profits in their pocket (if they win lawsuits, anyways). In short - they don't do any good.

 

[thegame07]

Maybe they will ban DVD/CD writers or basically anything that can copy media of any type....

Problem solved.

Or... not?

Dvd writers and cd writers are not just made to burn illegal stuff.

Lets just say the gbatemp members wish to put thier song on a cd. Now you sayed they might ban writers i dont think so because then the gbatemp song could not be put on a disc. Also people like to back up thier files from a pc to a disc. Writers dont need to be used for piracy.

 

[ishin]

Maybe they will ban DVD/CD writers or basically anything that can copy media of any type....

Problem solved.

Or... not?


Dvd writers and cd writers are not just made to burn illegal stuff.

Lets just say the gbatemp members wish to put thier song on a cd. Now you sayed they might ban writers i dont think so because then the gbatemp song could not be put on a disc. Also people like to back up thier files from a pc to a disc. Writers dont need to be used for piracy.

What you're saying is true, who says a writer or dvd's will be used for piracy, it's legal to make a back-up of your own stuff, it get's illegal when you sell it

 

[Veho]

it's legal to make a back-up of your own stuff, it get's illegal when you sell it

Depends from country to country. In some countries it's even illegal to have or make backups of stuff you own.

 

[xbman]

It's a waste of time and money to go after someone downloading music, roms, etc. They aren't the ones "costing" the industry. It those that dump, rip, duplicate, etc that are the main contributors as without them people wouldn't have such easy access to "pirated" goods.

Not to mention that all these losses are "perceived" losses - not real. I guarantee that most people who download stuff had no intentions of purchasing them in the first place - so companies are not losing potential sales as those sales never would have happened in the first place - but there is a loss and of course they need to protect themselves.

Aside from hearing about some people in the US that received "notification" about illegal mp3 downloads, etc. it does not appear to be common that anyone here gets into any sort of trouble just for downloading something. Not sure about other countires, but the point is, I don't think this announcement really means anything.

It's like the war on drugs. You can focus on and arrest people who buy them for thier own use, but unless you go after the dealers, etc you aren't doing anything to win the war - same with piracy.

 

[Codemasterflex]

It those that dump, rip, duplicate, etc that are the main contributors as without them people wouldn't have such easy access to "pirated" goods.

And also release those dumps, rips, and duplicates to the public, otherwise it would just be making a personal backup.

 

[xbman]

It those that dump, rip, duplicate, etc that are the main contributors as without them people wouldn't have such easy access to "pirated" goods.
And also release those dumps, rips, and duplicates to the public, otherwise it would just be making a personal backup.

Correct - I was referring to publicly realeasing / duplicating / selling, as you point out otherwise it would just be a backup.