'If you breach this agreement, you may not power on and use your device anymore,' and , 'If you do power on your device and we do nothing to stop you, that doesn't mean that this agreement is null and void.'
I checked and it doesn't state that anywhere, it only states if you break the guidelines and so forth that particular console will get banned. If they ban multiple consoles even unhacked ones wich wasn't the case with this person seeing the last news about this then they are banning you as a person and not the console itself.
How is what you're saying in any way similar to being banned on a console that you didn't hack. Lets just make stupid comparisons just for the sake of winning an argument that aren't similar in any way whatsoever and by law are completely different because they are not the sameSo if I wander into a casino, get caught cheating they should only prevent me from using the rest of the money in my wallet? From where I sit that is basically what you are claiming but for Nintendo.
Is it harsh? Sure. Nothing I would not do if I was running a computer security operation though.
Person with advanced skills, maybe even the near mythical "advanced persistent threat", is discovered with a set of access keys (functionally that is all a switch is -- it is a hardware access token as far as the server security is concerned). Said keys might be random but can be tied together by some means. You are damn right I am going to revoke the lot even if only one has been used so far, only thing that might stop me doing that is if I can sandbox/honeytrap them or similar.
Equally as you seem to be so entranced by EULAs (though again unless they were stupid enough to put a "you can use it regardless" type line in there it is of no great relevance -- it is their optional luxury service, as long as they don't kick you off because you are [insert usual list about genitals, those genitals you like to fumble, age other than too young, colour of your skin...] then they are free to do so and I would hate to operate in a place where I am and they are not free to do so) then why not have a read of one
http://ms.nintendo-europe.com/terms/wiiu/Wii-U-Network-EULA-UK_EN-2015-05.html
""Linked Nintendo Device" refers to a Nintendo Device which has been linked to a Nintendo Network ID. "
"Nintendo, in its sole discretion, may allow you to link your Nintendo Network ID to one or several Nintendo Devices. If your Nintendo Network ID is linked to a Nintendo Device, you must delete your Nintendo Network ID and any other content that is personal to you from the Linked Nintendo Device before you sell or otherwise transfer your Linked Nintendo Device to another person."
"The Nintendo Network Code of Conduct prohibits all illegal, harmful or otherwise inappropriate conduct, including, but not limited to the following:"
"Gaining unauthorised access to any of Nintendo’s computers, hardware, equipment, servers or networks used to support Nintendo Network; hosting, intercepting, emulating, reverse engineering any part of a Linked Nintendo Device or Nintendo Network or redirecting the communication protocols used by Nintendo as part of Nintendo Network, regardless of the method used to do so;"
"Gaining unauthorised access to any of Nintendo’s computers, hardware, equipment, servers or networks used to support Nintendo Network; hosting, intercepting, emulating, reverse engineering any part of a Linked Nintendo Device or Nintendo Network or redirecting the communication protocols used by Nintendo as part of Nintendo Network, regardless of the method used to do so;"
Blah blah blahh... snooze zzzzz... What's that? Were you saying something about securing your bootrom? Oh turns out you didn't triple check the code, or you did triple check it but your nintendo engineer was asleep on the job? Oh that's too bad, and too bad that our nintendo switch has nothing to do with any of nintendo's computers, hardware, equipment, servers, or their network, we're purely working from our own hardware here. Oh you think that what you sold us, and that we now own is still owned by you somehow? Well by now you should have recognized that is very very far from the truth
If we are talking about a console being banned from Nintendo's online services then yes it does.
Barring nastiness like the DMCA if you happen to fall under its jurisdiction I would agree it is your hardware and you can do what you like with it, it is the line of logic this entire site runs on and how I approach the world as well. Nothing in that has to do with it being allowed to access Nintendo's private services though which is what I thought was being discussed.
Looks like the sock puppets have come out to play!kumikochan after that exchange I'm starting to take his title of 'Fackin' Troller' seriously lol. It seems gbatemp does have it right lol.
And how do you interpret that statement, old bean?LOL that's the most idiotic outrageous, put words in nintendos mouth, amount of overreach beyond absurdity and rationality I've ever heard! I hope you're not serious and your title is accurate to this kind of statement lol.
If you sold someone a product and transferred ownership to that person, you can't have clause of some agreement that says if you do this thing then you can't power it on or use it anymore. lmao. You sold it, you transferred ownership, it's no longer yours, you can't tell anyone who's the new owner of it what they can or can't do with it, you lost that right once you transferred it. (Maybe yes you can block access to your online services, but fk them we don't care, that's all you can do, can't stop usage of the device itself we'll make our own online services no biggie)And especially lol about the 'we do nothing to stop you', as if you could do anything to stop us! Stop pretending, acknowledge your defeat, WE ARE THE OWNERS OF OUR DEVICES NOW BEYOTCH! SO F*CK Y*U Thank you very much
the funny thing is the switch wasn't hacked at all.
I don’t know. Maybe you were taught news reporting that way, but I was taught to always post the actual source for your news and the original source at the same time. Like, “Source, via bla bla” or something. It’s about giving credit to your actual source and don’t just leech off of them. That way other sites will respect you and do the same for you (they can see where their backlinks are coming from).
Well then, who cares? lol, he was messing around and publicly tweeting about it so he got banned.Except it was, he said at first it wasn't. Then later he said, "Well I did run some Homebrew on it" he also ran CDN on a PC with his account, which that same account he had in both switches. His bans were justified.
Not sure if troll, But basically all the gear there is hacked, as seen by the weapon with "9999999p" in the Green square. Also the other weapons with weird names, and the same perks four times. I don't play the game myself, but I see what he meansWould that make more sense if I knew about the game?
Equally how does a shooting game worry about such things?
Ban the cheaters, then. Don't punish the "legitimate" (improper use of the word, I know) modders because of the actions of the bloodthirsty fewHere's why people don't like hackers.
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Because it always lead to some cheats sooner or later.