Hacking NTSC VC wads on a PAL wii

[CoolMe]

I'm not sure how to explain RGB to you without an RGB SCART cable diagram but just a short rundown: everything depends on the video output mode. A PAL60 (480i60hz) output supports RGB over the same cable as composite (the SCART cable). Only in PAL60 does the Wii output RGB. When set to NTSC 60hz output the same leads used for RGB on PAL60 are used for S-video, using the same SCART RGB cable then results in a red picture because NTSC games launch (even on PAL60 video output) at the NTSC video mode by default. Your suggestion of setting the video mode to NTSC 60hz works but results in that red picture using RGB over SCART. Moreover forcing PAL60, makes the game run, but the audio is garbled.

Let me clarify that composite over the same SCART cable shows correct colours at the correct speed, but composite is much blurrier than RGB so I would like to avoid using that. I should have looked this up online before

I know what rgb is.. What i wanted to know is if using scart on the Wii (specifically) doesn't allow ntsc signals to show properly on a pal system.. And that looks like it from what you're experiencing..

because it seems pretty common knowledge online that NTSC video output on the Wii does not support RGB but only composite + S-video + component, my bad.

This makes sense. Not composite though, certainly not on the wii, ntsc signals can't be displayed on a pal wii with composite.
But it can in a ntsc system (and tv of course).

Edit: I have found that some people "patch" NTSC wads to output PAL instead of NTSC, but I'm not sure how to go about that.

I would suggest creating a Sneek/Uneek setup with a ntsc nand. It's worth a try.
If it doesn't, then it's just how the hardware is built inside the wii, to output specific video signals for specific regions, it's not about scart or rgb. Because, for instance the PS2 plays ntsc 60hz signals (ps2 & ps1 games), regardless of resolution through scart just fine..

 

[Daanvandam]

Using a SCART cable on the Wii allows for NTSC signals, only properly (speed and colour) when tuning the tv to simple AV, when tuning the TV to RGB it gets a red tint all over the screen, but the correct speed (when the console is set to NTSC video output). Consistent with the fact that RGB is unsupported.

Using a SCART cable on the Wii allows for NTSC signals, with proper colors when turning both the tv to AV and RGB, but the audio is garbled/mismatched (when the console is set to PAL video output). Also consistent with the fact that PAL480i60hz supports RGB.

I will try your suggestions but I fear best quality NTSC 60hz is only possible with component cables, and the next best thing is S-video on a Wii.

If I may ask, what is your setup? And how do you enjoy your 60hz NTSC wads on your PAL Wii? You might inspire me to use that same setup? Are you using a CRT? I appreciate the responses by the way.

Edit: using s-video, when setting the wii to ntsc 480i60hz results in good colours, good speed, good audio. Image is worse than RGB but better than composite.

 

[CoolMe]

If I may ask, what is your setup? And how do you enjoy your 60hz NTSC wads on your PAL Wii? You might inspire me to use that same setup? Are you using a CRT? I appreciate the responses by the way.

Well I don't have a pal wii, i have a ntsc system, hooked with component to an hdtv that has component inputs. I wish i have one of those Sony Trinitron crts that have component inputs. Some time maybe..

 

[Daanvandam]

Ah gotcha, yeah I use CRTs for all the consoles that don't support HD (with the exception of the PS3 for playing PS1). I do own a CRT with an HDMI input and it's max 720p and 1080i, but I also have not found a nice trinitron with component though. I'm always on the lookout though. Thanks for the advice I got a little wiser when it comes to the AV output modes of the Wii!

 

[Drodrik]

I got run VC NTCS games on a PAL console just changing the region of my console with an region changer

 

[totakeke95]

Not only is it necessary to change the region, but you must patch the wad's DOL with a program to force it to the desired region or else trying to start it will give a black screen. However, USB Loader GX can now force any video mode on VC/WiiWare channels, so there is no need to use any programs.

 

[SylverReZ]

I personally don't recommend using NTSC N64 WADs on a PAL console, the game goes way too fast because the console is in 50Hz, making it virtually unplayable.

 

[tsanummy]

Using a SCART cable on the Wii allows for NTSC signals, only properly (speed and colour) when tuning the tv to simple AV, when tuning the TV to RGB it gets a red tint all over the screen, but the correct speed (when the console is set to NTSC video output). Consistent with the fact that RGB is unsupported.

Using a SCART cable on the Wii allows for NTSC signals, with proper colors when turning both the tv to AV and RGB, but the audio is garbled/mismatched (when the console is set to PAL video output). Also consistent with the fact that PAL480i60hz supports RGB.

I will try your suggestions but I fear best quality NTSC 60hz is only possible with component cables, and the next best thing is S-video on a Wii.

If I may ask, what is your setup? And how do you enjoy your 60hz NTSC wads on your PAL Wii? You might inspire me to use that same setup? Are you using a CRT? I appreciate the responses by the way.

Edit: using s-video, when setting the wii to ntsc 480i60hz results in good colours, good speed, good audio. Image is worse than RGB but better than composite.

What did you do? I'm having the exact same problem (I can either run Ocarina of Time with a red tint, or good colors and shitty 50hz audio...). My TV doesn't have a Svideo input.

Is there really no way to run WiiVC Ocarina/Majoras on "Force PAL60" with proper audio?