I't not illegal in various countries to make backups, as long as you have a copy of the original for each backup. In the US and those other countries, you have to make the backups yourself.
1) it's not illegal, so Nintendo doesn't have a right to say that it's illegal.lol I never knew nintendo was the law.Actually, as Nintendo have said you are not allowed to do it, it IS.Backing up yourself isn't copyright infringement, unless you upload it or redistribute it.Wow, just wow. Who said that I'm playing the game illegaly?
You did...
If I can play Zelda LA on my smartphone, on my PC, on my notebook, on my tablet, on my netbook, maybe even on my television directly (Android TVs)..
The only possible way to play a gameboy game on a smartphone/pc/notebook/tablet/netbook is illegally. If the game was never commercially released on those systems, the only way to do it is through illegally obtaining the ROM of the game, which is either piracy if you downloaded it from an external source, or just plain copyright infringement if you backed it up yourself.
Not once in your reply did you suggest playing Zelda on your gameboy color.
You can not compare the price of a legal download with the freeness of an illegal one if you're complaining about value for money. Besides, whos to say they aren't only charging for the work that wend into the emulator and for distribution?
That's how copyright works. Why don't you know that?
If you create something, it is your decision alone as to who is allowed to copy that thing.
If you make a really cool (or even terrible) piece of music, you can either say "everyone is allowed to freely copy this music" or you can say "nobody is allowed to copy this", which is where copyright comes in copyright = right to copy.
so in this situation, as Nintendo owns the copyright to it's own library of games (as you would expect) and they have said very openly online, the 'fair use' 'legitimate backup' rules are very narrow and to not include most video games as they are very unlikely fail during normal prolonged use, so Nintendo are legally allowed to tell you that you can't have a backup copy of their games because 1. it's illegal and 2. there is no legit reason to have one.
Okay, I was kind of iffy about him glorifying nintendo. That makes a little more sense to me, although I'm not sure whether backing up content would really circumvent any copy protection. For old systems (say, the NES) I doubt there were any protection, since piracy was such a minor thing. Does that mean that games without protection are out of the equation? Or were there actually protection on games for older systems as well? I'd be glad if people could elaborate a little more.The DMCA makes it illegal to circumvent any copy protection in the process of making the backup.
1) it's not illegal, so Nintendo doesn't have a right to say that it's illegal.
2) if you own copies of the game, but your system is broke, you can resort to backing up + emulating. Legit and legal enough.
Seriously though, if you want to convince me that it's illegal to create back-ups yourself from your own bought copies, give me some back-up information.
The thread topic is a tad inaccurate to the subject matter, best fix it or there will be more derailing by everyone.
Your topic should include the fact that you mean the e-Shop.
It looks 50/50 at people that agree with me saying NintenDOH need to drop their prices and the others saying overpriced is good.
I'm not a fanboy. I think the iDevices suck as they are so locked up and missing basic features. What, it took them 3 devices and about 10 OS's to get MMS and video recording where a $50 throw away phone could do all that.
I have all the different consoles and devices. I own 4 Xbox360's, 1 PS3, iPad1, iPhone 1, iPhone 3G, iPhone4, DSL, DSi, 3DS, PSP Phat, PSP Slim, PSP GO, multiple PCs, netbooks, so I'm not a fanboy by any means.
I have brought about 20 games from the eShop so I do buy my games, I also buy a lot of games on the iDevices when they drop to FREE or $0.99 I grab them as thats what they are worth.
My thoughts are NintenDOH need to have sales in the eShop. How about setting old games at the right prices. a GB and under (Nes/SNES/N64) games should be priced right. They are years old and nobody likes to buy a really old game at a new game price. I suggest $0.99 for any old game. Even the remakes of NES games in 3D are just pathetic. They are still really old games they are making a bucket load of money from because they dont have a braincell in their greedy heads to think of something new. I'm also talking about Mario and Mario Kart games here.
Mario Kart 7... Its still just like the very first mario kart game. You get in a kart and go around a track and shoot crap at the other drivers.... I got bored about 20 mins into the first game and now they released the 7th version of it.... How about hiring someone with a thought patten in their head and think of something new and interesting to make instead of a "Mario Kart 8" or a "super mario at the old folks home"
Oh, BTW I did buy it for my daughter so I have it I know about it as I've played it and I dont like it.
About the eShop, they should release more games in the weekly update. 1 game a week is stupid. How about they release 10 games so we have some variety and have 1 older game at a discount for the week. I bet they will sell more of that sale game and they will make more money that way.
Is there a way to make a poll here? Should make a poll "Who thinks the eShop is overpriced and under populated"
Hmm last time I checked, Nintendo is doing just fine. The 3DS has already sold 8.8 million units worldwide in just under 10 months. If that's not competing then I don't know what is. I'm getting a Vita too, but I don't expect it to sell as well as the 3DS. Nintendo has won the loyalty of a large consumer base, so it's very easy for many people to buy the newest Nintendo console without hesitation regardless if it's as powerful as the competition or not.Apart from prices Nintendo needs to change their tactics in general if they want to compete
I'm getting a Vita as well but probably not for a while since everything in australia gets an unfair price increase and i too don[t think it'll sell as well as the 3DS but what I said is what I think needs to happen to make nintendo even more of a competitor, drop the region lock forever since you're already trying to stop flashcards with firmware updates why bother stopping people from importing, start giving DLC freebies for incomplete games eg. mario kart 7, and have the same price for all regions (after currency conversion) so no increased price for AUS customers.Hmm last time I checked, Nintendo is doing just fine. The 3DS has already sold 8.8 million units worldwide in just under 10 months. If that's not competing then I don't know what is. I'm getting a Vita too, but I don't expect it to sell as well as the 3DS. Nintendo has won the loyalty of a large consumer base, so it's very easy for many people to buy the newest Nintendo console without hesitation regardless if it's as powerful as the competition or not.Apart from prices Nintendo needs to change their tactics in general if they want to compete
Overall for pricing, Nintendo is the cheapest.
The 3DS has already sold 8.8 million units worldwide in just under 10 months.