Hardware Nintendo Switch Technical Specifications Discussion

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What SoC do you think the Nintendo Switch will use? + Reasons in thread.


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At 768MHz Maxwell you're looking at about half the power of an overclocked GTX 970, or roughly the same power as a GTX 950. Which runs games at 1080p with no issue. Nvidia also claims to have a proprietary low-level API running on Switch, which should allow it to perform above its weight class. Most modern games will have no problem running at 1080p30 on Switch.
 
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-switch-spec-analysis
This is really weird. I understand about stacked processor being used, but 1020MHz is far below a53's standard clock. The only way for this spec to work with the old overclock x1 devkit (so it's even faster than the dev kit) is four layers of 256 cores (or higher, so essentially 1024 cores, matching those of GTX 1060 3GB but considerably less clock) taking a slightly less footprint, and at 700 (or according to Foxconn leak 900) MHz that's between Xbox One S and PS4 Slim. And Maxwell is actually worth more clock for clock and still a good three generation ahead of Radeon 8000 series. However, I think Nintendo will go with TCMC's 16nm than the older 20nm for the custom chip.
Also Eurogamer's statement about Xbox One S using 16nm is wrong. AMD is using GF at the moment, which uses Samsung's older 14nm, including Polaris/ Vega and the refreshed hardware for PS4 Slim/ Pro/ Xbox one S/ Scorpio.

Seems thats how it might work, foxconn rumours are definitely false though.

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At 768MHz Maxwell you're looking at about half the power of an overclocked GTX 970. Which runs games at 1080p60 with no issue. Nvidia also claims to have a proprietary low-level API running on Switch, which should allow it to perform above its weight class. Most modern games will have no problem running at 1080p30 on Switch.
1080p is what they should be aiming for, if this machine can stream 4k im sold, since then my investment in a 4k tv will be worthwhile (even if i have a ps4 pro, never really use it though)

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At 768MHz Maxwell you're looking at about half the power of an overclocked GTX 970. Which runs games at 1080p60 with no issue. Nvidia also claims to have a proprietary low-level API running on Switch, which should allow it to perform above its weight class. Most modern games will have no problem running at 1080p30 on Switch.
1080p is what they should be aiming for, if this machine can stream 4k im sold, since then my investment in a 4k tv will be worthwhile (even if i have a ps4 pro, never really use it though)
What's the link for the Eurogamer article? I'm curious as to what THEIR sources are
Their sources are as solid as can be, probably more solid than laura kate dale's

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http://wccftech.com/nintendo-switch-may-not-powerful-enough-run-prey/
I got mixed up with this post.
On the bright side Maxwell does have slightly better ipc and can be manufactured at a smaller node if necessary. So is everyone's money on 512 cuda cores or 1024?
I doubt it has 1024 cuda cores mostly on such a small chip

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With 3 generations of advancement, and how Nvidia still 'worth more' in terms of Teraflops, the switch will perform better than the original xbox one even at a lower Teraflop. That said, rx 480 is faster than gtx 980 despite similar teraflop rating.
If it's 1024 core, 300 MHz this thing will run Crisis.
But we have to remember one is finFET and the other isnt and is considerably larger.

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1) Tegra x1 needs overclocking to remotely match the switch according to the older dev kit. This combined with Eurogamer's statement about 307.2MHz suggest at least 1024 cuda cores. This gives 629G fp32.
2) At docked mode, this gives 1.57T fp32. This is even higher than Xbox one S. And with technological advancement, this can trash PS4. This is around the same as gtx 950.
Then why would the venture beat rumour say 1tflop of power? Doesnt add up
 
I'd have to disagree, Laura Kate's been right about a LOT of stuff so far. I also just scanned the Eurogamer article, it seemed to be largely speculation
Nope, They got their info months earlier and if these are the same sources, ive got no doubts.

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Sudendly I feel like this will be Wii U 1.5, a first party machine, however, this is still a rumour (which is based in the venturebeat claim) so there's still hope for this to be fake.
Its not a weak console to an extent its still got its far better architecture going for it as well as Nvidia's custom API's
 
A new report came in claiming that the switch is using Maxwell Architecture. This could mean two things: 1) IPC with Maxwell is around 1.1 times of that of Pascal. 2) Most likely 16nm is still being utilized. 16nm Maxwell could end up better than Pascal and still used some advanced technology. Still, it's possible to have a better gpu than Tegra X1.
According to the report this thing is on par with Xbox One.
Edit: The same article also said 20nm. Sorry for the miss information.
Or of course this could be based on the earlier tegra x1 based dev unit.
http://venturebeat.com/2016/12/14/nintendo-switch-specs-less-powerful-than-playstation-4/

Fake news and its rumour. Stop believing anything and wait for Nintendo news in January 12 2017.
 
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Nope, They got their info months earlier and if these are the same sources, ive got no doubts.

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Its not a weak console to an extent its still got its far better architecture going for it as well as Nvidia's custom API's
But is the clock not too exact. 307.2 = 1024 * 0.3 and 768 = 256 * 3.
We should call wii u Nintendo switch 0.5.
 
Vulkan API confirmed for Switch
https://www.khronos.org/conformance/adopters/conformant-products#vulkan

The fact it's on the actual dev page says something

these rumours are about as trustworthy as possible.

As for specs heres how it stands:
RAM: 4gb
GPU: 1TFlops
Clocks:
1020MHz(cpu)
768Mhz(Gpu when docked)

Those don't seem all that impressive, wasn't the Wii U Tri-core 1.24 GHz per core? Obviously PPC vs ARM, but ARM is for mobile devices and typically runs a lot lower than x86 Intel/AMD
 
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Vulkan API confirmed for Switch
https://www.khronos.org/conformance/adopters/conformant-products#vulkan

The fact it's on the actual dev page says something



Those don't seem all that impressive, wasn't the Wii U Tri-core 1.24 GHz per core? Obviously PPC vs ARM, but ARM is for mobile devices and typically runs a lot lower than x86 Intel/AMD
That's most likely bs too. 20nm A53 was in the 1.2+ range. The Foxconn leak actually says 2.1 GHz, so I think we should probably double number given by Eurogamers. But again, Eurogamers has been correct recently.
 
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That's most likely bs too. 20nm A53 was in the 1.2+ range. The Foxconn leak actually says 2.1 GHz, so I think we should probably double number given by Eurogamers. But again, Eurogamers has been correct recently.

Really ? You believe in Eurogamers ?
 
Isn't that asking him and the Temp a little too much? They're gonna spread rumors like viruses.
then we've got work to do.
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Really ? You believe in Eurogamers ?
Yes when they were the ones to predict the switch months ahead of time, no point denying them again, i already did and i was sure as hell wrong with what is now nintendo switch.
Cant wait to see Laura Kate Dale to report this and everyone still deny it :sleep:

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Seeing as how this thing has basically been gimped to hell and back, its entirely possible that nintendo could release a software update that allows the console to overclock.
 
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http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/19/14005792/nintendo-switch-docked-power-details
This source says there is a 40% decrease when it's actually dropping to 40% and 60% decrease. They article did correct that however.
Don't trust any secondary source. I just bit my own tongue today.

On the other hand, 1tf / 768MHz / 2 = 651, which suggest 640 cuda cores, being the same as GTX 750 Ti with 75% clock.
Edit: Or 1tf/ 307.2 MHz/ 2 = 1627, which suggest 1600 cuda cores, which we all know is impossible.
 
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http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/19/14005792/nintendo-switch-docked-power-details
This source says there is a 40% decrease when it's actually dropping to 40% and 60% decrease. They article did correct that however.
Don't trust any secondary source. I just bit my own tongue today.

On the other hand, 1tf / 768MHz / 2 = 651, which suggest 640 cuda cores, being the same as GTX 750 Ti with 75% clock.
Edit: Or 1tf/ 307.2 MHz/ 2 = 1627, which suggest 1600 cuda cores, which we all know is impossible.
640 Cuda cores is probably the most likely, quite a nice number actually.
 

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