Nintendo shuts down decade old fan game creation tool Pokemon Essentials

Chary Aug 29, 2018.

  1. Yaro

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    Don't this defeat purpose of fan game? Or you mean they should draw pikachoo and others themselve for that? Hm.....

    They make they own - levels/maps, encounters, story/dialogues, perhaps music. It's basically like with mods for doom or half-life, though in that case base content exist in game and fan adds levels to that, while in case with poke (or, for example, any CROSSOVER fangames) they make a base from ripped stuff first, which is then used as base.
     
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    Does it defeat the purpose of a fan game? Depends on what the purpose is... Pretty sure Freedom planet didn't defeat the purpose. Not sure Stardew Valley did either.

    And no.. This would be the same as me taking all the lines of a book, and separating them, then saying "You can put them together however you like." believe me.. that would get slapped with plagiarism in a hurry.
     
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    Many fan games are about making new stories for loved characters.

    Freedom Planet is "inspired by sonic", but not "something from fans that they do about sonic".

    (also, FP and SW are commercial products instead. Or were they not at start?)
     
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    I'm surprised they went after this instead of the Pokémon browser games and MMOs.
     
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    Freedom Planet specifically started as a Sonic Fan game.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Planet


    and don't fool yourself, things like Pokemon Uranium were commercial products, because they made money off adds on their website.
     
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    I see. They saw potential and decided to make "their own thing". While most fangame authors don't care and instead just do that "ok i download megaman and kingdom hearts sprites, now i insert it in game maker omg omg i make game omg!". Though again need to say plenty of those are at school age or smth, and not "guys who got $ from ads on site".
     
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    Exactly, the latter portion explains why this is different the modding an existing game; but the part missing is the redistribution of the ripped assets, which is what Nintendo's DMCA attempts to halt. Not going to get into how effective this kind of move generally is, I just don't think they're the bad guys for doing it.
     
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    Didn't know it had been out that long, I never heard of it until after Pokemon Uranium was released so I thought they were publicly released around the same time. It is a really solid Pokemon engine, too bad it was taken down, but I doubt that's going to stop anyone. Vinemon is made in it too, I hope they won't abandon it cause that seems like a solid double fangame.

    All they really have to do is replace the ripped assets with custom ones, and change the name to something else, but then it won't be a Pokemon fangame engine anymore, just a Pokemon-like engine. But there's nothing preventing people from adding those assets back in themselves if they want to, or making a separate pack with the Pokemon assets.
     
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    So, is the Switch hacked wide open yet? Can't wait to pirate more games out of pure spite.
     
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    Sega is different they encourage modders. look at Street of Rage:Remake (fan made). Sonic Mania

    i hope nintendo dont sue people has Zelda Name. (like robin williams daughter)
     
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    but..

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    why can't the creators provides patches/diffs from the official games?
     
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    Back with kitty Zelda forever :D
    If Nintendo shuts down this, they should really release a program/game to make our own pokemon games and share them online
    However, I think this program would be suited for PC only, I mean, to download others games
    it would saturate your HDD/SD card on switch
    And if it only suits for PC, well, I bet Nintendo won'T even think about releasing it...
    Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think they never released any 1st party games on PC, right?
     
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    Correct. Which is very annoying to me now. I want to be able to play those Nintendo IPs at 1080p 60 fps, and be able to record with Shadowplay.
     
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