Nintendo Hires Lobbying Firm To Battle Gateway 3DS Sales in the US

[stanleyopar2000]

So what do you think Nintendo is going to attempt to do with their bribe money to Washington?

 

[gudenau]

They should know that it does not mater what they do... I have a dstwo and all of the games on I ripped from my carts...

 

[cracker]

Aren't flashcarts legal in the U.S.?

Under the DMCA, yes they are. Even circumventing the security (think DS profile exploit + Launcher.dat) to run homebrew is technically illegal. This is an exercise in redundancy. Honestly, I find it hard to believe that some state-side shops are still operating.

In reference to packages being seized: It seems memory card is the go-to description on imported products.

 

[weatMod]

The elephant in the room (or Panda as it may be) is the fact that, while developed nations like the US and Japan have economies that are reliant on developing and protecting intellectual property and natural resources, China's economy is based on stealing intellectual property and destroying natural resources.

The US government has an interest in protecting Nintendo's intellectual property. Unfortunately, these cards are not coming from the US. They are coming from a place with a totalitarian government that has shown zero interest in protecting the intellectual property of other nations, because they have so little of their own and because their economy has been built around stealing ideas, software, and even entire factories from developed nations and Western companies.

It's a case of putting the horse before the cart. The suppliers are not US-based.

still believing national economies exist and are relevant, that is cute
there is no such thing as "chinas economy" it was built by the international communist/capitalist system , the global economy
quote unquote "US" corporations in reality multinational corporations who give fuckall a shit about any nation
US let them into the WTO ,why? because the people in control of the US control all the worlds capital and economy because the dollar is the world reserve currency
china is just a cog in the machine and that cog just happens to be the worlds factory of cheaply made low priced plastic shit for the rest of the planet,


is it no wonder it is polluted as fuck,these people exploit the shit out of china and that have balls to whine over MUH IP , when they are making money hand over fist as these peoples expense. they prop up their government if US didnt let them into the WTO, under clinton andif nixon had not gone over there and opened it up then there would be nothing there right now ,some people are just never satisfied

this is just a huge waste of money for them, something being illegal isn't going to stop it from happening millions of small packages come into america every single day almost none of them are checked, unless it smells like drugs or is huge and easily detectible it wont stop them from being used. the only thing this might stop is sellers from inside USA already and i thought that was already illegal.
they'd probably have better luck stopping them just buying the factory where they are produced and shutting down.

they would be better off not doing anything at all , it doesnt even cut into 1% of their sales , they will probably lose more money spending it on crooked lobyists and maybe getting DDOS'ed

 

[cracker]

You have that backwards because the Chinese have so much invested in our banks and lending companies that they own a huge chunk of America. Keep in mind that the US government borrows from countries each year to keep their shiny, unwanted/unneeded helicopters and what have you rolling off the lines. China is the prime contributor. Monetarily they may seem weak/poor but they are rich in assets.

 

[chartube12]

Under the DMCA, yes they are. Even circumventing the security (think DS profile exploit + Launcher.dat) to run homebrew is technically illegal. This is an exercise in redundancy. Honestly, I find it hard to believe that some state-side shops are still operating.
In reference to packages being seized: It seems memory card is the go-to description on imported products.

However reverse engineering for educational purposes and being able to dev your own software isn't. You can even share the information you learn with others, as long as you don't sell what you have learned, nintendo can not do shit.

EDIT: I have seen a statement from Nintendo (confirmed too) saying; they are no longer seeking legal action against those who make video game software using their IPs in North America, as long as they do not attempted to make profit from them. In other words Zelda Classic and the various mario & pokemon patches out there are 99.98% safe from Nintendo suing them.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

RealHotStuff got C+D'd and by the looks of their homepage...a gag order..this is only the beginning

 

[Skeet1983]

So, is owning a Gateway illegal now?

 

[AquaX101]

Hurry up realhotstuff give me my refund so I can order a gateway on wcrepairssssssss

 

[flarn2006]

The elephant in the room (or Panda as it may be) is the fact that, while developed nations like the US and Japan have economies that are reliant on developing and protecting intellectual property and natural resources, China's economy is based on stealing intellectual property and destroying natural resources.

The US government has an interest in protecting Nintendo's intellectual property. Unfortunately, these cards are not coming from the US. They are coming from a place with a totalitarian government that has shown zero interest in protecting the intellectual property of other nations, because they have so little of their own and because their economy has been built around stealing ideas, software, and even entire factories from developed nations and Western companies.

It's a case of putting the horse before the cart. The suppliers are not US-based.

How is that unfortunate for us?

 

[Joe88]

So, is owning a Gateway illegal now?

it always was with the dmca

 

[Skeet1983]

What about people who already have one? Is the Gateway site still going to push out updates?

 

[flarn2006]

What about people who already have one? Is the Gateway site still going to push out updates?

Yeah, US laws don't affect them.

 

[ShadowOne333]

LOL.

What is the USA going to do?
Threat flashcards like if they were drugs?

There is no way they can stop the import of flashcards (or any other kind of hardware) into the country.
That is just nonsensical BS. Worst case scenario might be just that some local stores or second sellers of additional hardware for consoles and handhelds stop selling this kind of product... If they ever did.

Don't even try, Nintendo.

It is not a product that is solely created for piracy, it is up to the user to do so.
Don't even worry guys, this won't carry over at all.

 

[FAST6191]

LOL.

What is the USA going to do?
Threat flashcards like if they were drugs?

There is no way they can stop the import of flashcards (or any other kind of hardware) into the country.
That is just nonsensical BS. Worst case scenario might be just that some local stores or second sellers of additional hardware for consoles and handhelds stop selling this kind of product... If they ever did.

Don't even try, Nintendo.

It is not a product that is solely created for piracy, it is up to the user to do so.
Don't even worry guys, this won't carry over at all.

It is not that they make it impossible, just that they make it annoyingly hard for the average pleb.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

LOL.

What is the USA going to do?
Threat flashcards like if they were drugs?

There is no way they can stop the import of flashcards (or any other kind of hardware) into the country.
That is just nonsensical BS. Worst case scenario might be just that some local stores or second sellers of additional hardware for consoles and handhelds stop selling this kind of product... If they ever did.

Don't even try, Nintendo.

It is not a product that is solely created for piracy, it is up to the user to do so.
Don't even worry guys, this won't carry over at all.

They shut down realhotstuff...one of the biggest flashcart sellers for US folk...With USA bribe money, I do believe they are "Trying" and succeeding.

 

[ShadowOne333]

They shut down realhotstuff...one of the biggest flashcart sellers for US folk...With USA bribe money, I do believe they are "Trying" and succeeding.

Succeeding?
I would call it "With short success"

Sure, they can STOP THE SELLS of the card in the USA, but simply stopping resellers for the card won't stop the TRAFFIC of it.
The only thing that they can do is tell official USA resellers to stop selling the card.
All other non-USA resellers will still be there, and customs office can't stop a package just because it is a flashcard.

My point being that traffic for flashcards in USA will still be there, through other resellers.
It won't stop because of whatever intends and purposes Nintendo has.

 

[Arras]

Succeeding?
I would call it "With short success"

Sure, they can STOP THE SELLS of the card in the USA, but simply stopping resellers for the card won't stop the TRAFFIC of it.
The only thing that they can do is tell official USA resellers to stop selling the card.
All other non-USA resellers will still be there, and customs office can't stop a package just because it is a flashcard.

My point being that traffic for flashcards in USA will still be there, through other resellers.
It won't stop because of whatever intends and purposes Nintendo has.

Sure, they can never stop it entirely, but they can make it more inconvenient for people to buy one, to the point where many people would not bother. A decrease in sales for these cards is still a win for Nintendo.

 

[Subtle Demise]

Most of the U.S. resellers on gateway's site are based in China and just have warehouses in the states that they ship from.

 

[xdrako23x]

Hurry up realhotstuff give me my refund so I can order a gateway on wcrepairssssssss

What I still havent got mine...