NGP Vs. 3DS

[Foxi4]

And it all sprouted from saying that Sony's naughty and Nintendo's all goodie-goodie. Sorry about that, I suppose it was unnecessary to carry on throwing seeds of information onto infertile ground. We can stray back onto the ontopic page now.

I'll start.

Wow, that NGP has some nice hardware in it, ain't it? Too bad the 3DS is still on the complexity level of a PSP, but it has 3D! What to choose, what to choose... horse power or gimmick...

I'll buy both as previously stated, for I love all consoles even though I'm well-aware that they're always developed by twats. I'm just edgy AND confromist at the same time, just like that.

 

[Sterling]

And it all sprouted from saying that Sony's naughty and Nintendo's all goodie-goodie. Sorry about that, I suppose it was unnecessary to carry on throwing seeds of information onto infertile ground. We can stray back onto the ontopic page now.

I'll start.

Wow, that NGP has some nice hardware in it, ain't it? Too bad the 3DS is still on the complexity level of a PSP, but it has 3D! What to choose, what to choose... horse power or gimmick...

I'll buy both as previously stated, for I love all consoles even though I'm well-aware that they're always developed by twats. I'm just edgy AND confromist at the same time, just like that.

That is very insulting sir. Especially since, they were infertile seeds from the start. You can't harvest knowledge from dead seeds.

I've already given my two cents concerning the NGP, but I'll add that I do wish to see where it will go (if it even goes).

 

[Foxi4]

Didn't mean to offend you. I just said that we have different views on the exact same issue.

It's called agreeing to disagree - I respect your opinion but refrain from changing my own. Sorry if I sounded harsh, I didn't mean that. If you knew me personally, you'd know I'm as cuddly and friendly as a carebear.

 

[chris888222]

If the NGP price is lower than $400 SGD (which is impossible), I would gladly buy it seeing it's features. If it has great games and a nice variety I will get it if it's lesser than $500 SGD.

Speaking of which, $400 SGD for the NGP is still more expensive than the PS3. Some retails are selling the PS3 at only $379. However, the launch price for the PS3 here was sometimes more than $1,000 for a full set, so SGD$400 is already considered really cheap at launch

EDIT: no offense but IMO in Singapore, the 3DS may triumph over the NGP for the first time (PSP beat nintendo in sales and games here). The launch price of the 3DS here is at $399 and still more expensive than the PS3. of course there are complains but these people still purchased their set (especially after going to the demo stands at funan). They are bringing out the 3DS now (it's really common especially on trains) and I hardly see anyone play their PSP anymore. This just shows that price isn't a concern and that 3D is seriously an awesome gimmick.

 

[Sterling]

Didn't mean to offend you. I just said that we have different views on the exact same issue.

It's called agreeing to disagree - I respect your opinion but refrain from changing my own. Sorry if I sounded harsh, I didn't mean that. If you knew me personally, you'd know I'm as cuddly and friendly as a carebear.

Okay, just so we're straight.

 

[Ikki]

I'm not even gonna read the replies.

As of now, the 3DS is the only one with titles I'd actually like. There's some NGP titles I'm interested in, but that's about it.

So, time will tell but for now, the 3DS gets my vote.

 

[syko5150]

Well i'm going to be honest. Nintendo has always given top quality titles whether it's Mario or Zelda and the list goes on. As of right now the only franchises that Sony has to offer that I'm interested in are Uncharted, Killzone and MLB:The show series, other than that Sony doesn't really have anything that appeals to me. That's not to say they don't have great titles just not ones that really appeal to me. I'm still going to buy NGP when it's out I already have the 3DS.

 

[Shabutie78]

if you want outdated hardware, last-gen graphics, remakes of old games, remakes of remakes, ports of old games, ports of ports, gimmicky software, or you feel like you have to buy another mario kart (though i guess that falls into the remake category), go with 3DS.
the fact that the NGP has PS3-level graphics alone is what, to me, trumps the 3DS tenfold. enjoy your 2001 graphics, ninty boys.

NGP gets my vote but i'll be buying both eventually. i won't buy the 3DS until the 3rd new model is out. be it 3DSi or 3DSiXL or whatever. not gonna waste my money on some clunky system that looks like it was intentionally beefed up to be fugly so we can throw our checkbooks to nintendo later when they trim the fucker down.
NGP at least looks decent and slim, as portable as you can get with such a huge screen.

 

[Sterling]

@Shabutie78

So, you don't think that the NGP isn't going to have remakes, or ports? You don't think that the NGP's hardware is even slightly gimmicky? (Oh lord, a screen sized touchpad on the back of the system.) You don't think that the NGP is a bit overpowered for something that will be going into a pocket? Honestly?

 

[Foxi4]

Overpowered?

In my country there is a saying.

"Your head will never hurt from "excess" "

You may have *too little* resources to achieve a given goal, but you can't possibly have too many.

I have to agree about the touchpad, it's completely unnecessary seeing that the NGP already has a touchscreen.

 

[KingVamp]

For the record I didn't see how you can compare 3DS graphics to PSP graphics base on some of the games we seen.

Plus graphic alone doesn't make a great portable.

Plus the 3DS isn't fugly.

Getting BOTH btw.

 

[Foxi4]

For the record I didn't see how you can compare 3DS graphics to PSP graphics base on some of the games we seen.

Plus graphic alone doesn't make a great portable.

Getting BOTH btw.

Overexageration which is supposed to create a comedic effect while at the same time underlining the technological inferiority of the 3DS compared to what it "could've been". A clever joke for people who "get it".

Compare the capabilities of the 3DS and the NGP. Feels very much like putting a PSP next to a DS. Or a PS3 next to a Wii.

I just hope they don't fuck up the games library this time, I want Nintendo to have decent competition in the handheld market, I want them off their asses so that they stop taking their customers for granted.

Also, *Both* is the best choice indeed.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

if you want outdated hardware, last-gen graphics, remakes of old games, remakes of remakes, ports of old games, ports of ports, gimmicky software, or you feel like you have to buy another mario kart (though i guess that falls into the remake category), go with 3DS.
the fact that the NGP has PS3-level graphics alone is what, to me, trumps the 3DS tenfold. enjoy your 2001 graphics, ninty boys.

NGP gets my vote but i'll be buying both eventually. i won't buy the 3DS until the 3rd new model is out. be it 3DSi or 3DSiXL or whatever. not gonna waste my money on some clunky system that looks like it was intentionally beefed up to be fugly so we can throw our checkbooks to nintendo later when they trim the fucker down.
NGP at least looks decent and slim, as portable as you can get with such a huge screen.

There's one reason, and one reason only that you're an idiot, that's because you're a graphics whore.

Look at what happened with the DS and PSP. PSP had PS2 type graphics, yet the DS just simply destroyed the shit out of it. Gameplay > Graphics. And if you don't believe that, then you can't call yourself a gamer.

 

[CrimzonEyed]

DS vs. PSP
FIGHT!
Winner is:
DS!


Round Two!

3DS vs. NGP
Fight!
Battle on going, ngp isn't out yet, we don't know what titles it will get.


I think the 3DS will win if they can pump out some really good games. I think the NGP have a 20% chance to win over the 3DS though.

 

[Rock Raiyu]

if you want outdated hardware, last-gen graphics, remakes of old games, remakes of remakes, ports of old games, ports of ports, gimmicky software, or you feel like you have to buy another mario kart (though i guess that falls into the remake category), go with 3DS.
the fact that the NGP has PS3-level graphics alone is what, to me, trumps the 3DS tenfold. enjoy your 2001 graphics, ninty boys.

NGP gets my vote but i'll be buying both eventually. i won't buy the 3DS until the 3rd new model is out. be it 3DSi or 3DSiXL or whatever. not gonna waste my money on some clunky system that looks like it was intentionally beefed up to be fugly so we can throw our checkbooks to nintendo later when they trim the fucker down.
NGP at least looks decent and slim, as portable as you can get with such a huge screen.

There's one reason, and one reason only that you're an idiot, that's because you're a graphics whore.

Look at what happened with the DS and PSP. PSP had PS2 type graphics, yet the DS just simply destroyed the shit out of it. Gameplay > Graphics. And if you don't believe that, then you can't call yourself a gamer.

The graphics had nothing to do with how the DS destroyed the PSP. Development costs, the price, and the fact that it has the "Nintendo" label on it played a huge role.

 

[Foxi4]

DS vs. PSP
FIGHT!
Winner is:
DS!


Round Two!

3DS vs. NGP
Fight!
Battle on going, ngp isn't out yet, we don't know what titles it will get.


I think the 3DS will win if they can pump out some really good games. I think the NGP have a 20% chance to win over the 3DS though.

*Why* are we conscidering this a "fight" anyways? It's not like we're comparing measurements or anything - both consoles are good and succeeded on the market, each fitting a different niche in it. The DS sold 144 something million units, which is great. The PSP sold 75 something units, which is half less, but still goddamn great.

A reason for this could be that the DS had newer iliterations of the system that actually *changed* stuff, being the DSi/DSi XL. Even the DS Lite fixed issues of the Phattie, so MANY players own more then one DS, while there is no actual *point* in owning one PSP, as all PSP's play the exact same applications with no reason at all to upgrade. The only *different* PSP was the Go, which had marginal sales because it sucked ballz.

 

[Ikki]

There's one reason, and one reason only that you're an idiot, that's because you're a graphics whore.

Look at what happened with the DS and PSP. PSP had PS2 type graphics, yet the DS just simply destroyed the shit out of it. Gameplay > Graphics. And if you don't believe that, then you can't call yourself a gamer.

The graphics had nothing to do with how the DS destroyed the PSP. Development costs, the price, and the fact that it has the "Nintendo" label on it played a huge role.

You didn't get what he said at all.
He said that the DS destroyed the PSP having the derp graphics it has. Therefore proving that Gameplay > Graphics.

 

[Foxi4]

I don't see it that way. It's neither Gameplay > Graphics nor Graphics > Gameplay.

It's Gameplay + Graphics. The prettiest game with the shittiest gameplay will suck. The most brilliant game mechanic that is expressed using 5-year old children's drawings will also suck.

It's best to have as much resources as humanly possible to allow the best graphics, but also a well-developed, coherent dev teams and a pleasantly built-together system to play them. It's all about balance. The two don't exist separately - they interact with eachother. In a good game, there is balance between execution and presentation.

How's that?

 

[ShadowSoldier]

if you want outdated hardware, last-gen graphics, remakes of old games, remakes of remakes, ports of old games, ports of ports, gimmicky software, or you feel like you have to buy another mario kart (though i guess that falls into the remake category), go with 3DS.
the fact that the NGP has PS3-level graphics alone is what, to me, trumps the 3DS tenfold. enjoy your 2001 graphics, ninty boys.

NGP gets my vote but i'll be buying both eventually. i won't buy the 3DS until the 3rd new model is out. be it 3DSi or 3DSiXL or whatever. not gonna waste my money on some clunky system that looks like it was intentionally beefed up to be fugly so we can throw our checkbooks to nintendo later when they trim the fucker down.
NGP at least looks decent and slim, as portable as you can get with such a huge screen.

There's one reason, and one reason only that you're an idiot, that's because you're a graphics whore.

Look at what happened with the DS and PSP. PSP had PS2 type graphics, yet the DS just simply destroyed the shit out of it. Gameplay > Graphics. And if you don't believe that, then you can't call yourself a gamer.

The graphics had nothing to do with how the DS destroyed the PSP. Development costs, the price, and the fact that it has the "Nintendo" label on it played a huge role.

Clearly.

I'm just saying that because it gets a lot of technology and has the best graphics, doesn't mean it's going to succeed.

 

[BobTheJoeBob]

I don't see it that way. It's neither Gameplay > Graphics nor Graphics > Gameplay.

It's Gameplay + Graphics. The prettiest game with the shittiest gameplay will suck. The most brilliant game mechanic that is expressed using 5-year old children's drawings will also suck.

It's best to have as much resources as humanly possible to allow the best graphics, but also a well-developed, coherent dev teams and a pleasantly built-together system to play them. It's all about balance. The two don't exist separately - they interact with eachother. In a good game, there is balance between execution and presentation.

How's that?

Graphics or are only necessary for a great game up to the point where you can tell what's gogin on on the screen. After that, it's just icing on the cake. Of course a game with better graphics is better, but it's not a necessity for a great game with timeless gameplay.