Newell opens up on Half-Life 3 dev issues

Discussion in 'User Submitted News' started by AlanJohn, Apr 23, 2012.

Apr 23, 2012
  1. AlanJohn
    OP

    Member AlanJohn くたばれ

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2011
    Messages:
    3,425
    Location:
    Canada,New Jersey
    Country:
    Ukraine
    [​IMG]


    Unexpected results, positive and negative, appear to have postponed the game's development
    Valve has remained silent about the Half-Life 3 project due to significant unexpected occurrences during the game’s development, the company’s managing director Gabe Newell has explained.
    Newell, who co-founded the company in 1996, discussed the unannounced Half-Life project without mentioning it by name. He instead spoke at length about ‘Ricochet 2’ – a project that likely does not exist – in what appears to be a code word for Half-Life 3.
    “In terms of Ricochet 2, we always have this problem that when we talk about things too far in advance,” Newell said.
    “We end up changing our minds as we're going through and developing stuff, so as we're thinking through the giant story arc which is Ricochet 2, you might get to a point where you're saying something is surprising us in a positive way and something is surprising us in a negative way, and, you know, we'd like to be super-transparent about the future of Ricochet 2.”
    In a podcast interview with Seven Day Cooldown, Newell suggested that Valve’s ongoing silence on the Half-Life 3 project was fairer to fans than exposing the project along with its various transformations and delays.
    Article continues below
    Advertisement

    “The problem is, we think that the twists and turns that we're going through would probably drive people more crazy than just being silent about it, until we can be very crisp about what's happening next,” he said.
    Valve’s last Half-Life game was released in 2007. Since then, the company has faced numerous online and real-world protests that call on Valve to clarify the project’s development.
    Develop was last year reliably informed that “unexpected concept changes” were central to the delay to the Half-Life 3 project.
    Ricochet was one of the first games to be realeased on Steam. A sequel is not thought to be in development. The Seven Day Cooldown podcast interviewer framed the question in a manner that suggested he was discussing Half Life.


    :arrow:Source
     


  2. Joe88

    Member Joe88 [λ]

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2008
    Messages:
    11,191
    Location:
    NYC
    Country:
    United States
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632kyLysP6c[/youtube]
     
    3 people like this.
  3. Guild McCommunist

    Member Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Messages:
    18,151
    Location:
    The Danger Zone
    Country:
    United States
    I also think they're waiting for like real next gen tech for a new engine. Half Life has kinda been the real "opener" for Valve's engines. It pioneered GoldSrc and it opened up Source. I wouldn't be surprised if Half Life 3 uses a new engine by them and they're waiting for the next generation for this to happen.

    Even then, I'd rather wait for a good game then get rushed a bad game.
     
    3 people like this.
  4. AlanJohn
    OP

    Member AlanJohn くたばれ

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2011
    Messages:
    3,425
    Location:
    Canada,New Jersey
    Country:
    Ukraine
    What if they're waiting for the next-gen consoles since they don't want to make it look like shit?
    :tpi:
     
  5. Berthenk

    Member Berthenk Epitome of Awesomeness

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,314
    Country:
    Netherlands
    I wonder, was any of Valve's fames games rushed or bad? I haven't played Ricochet but so far from what I've played everything was at the very least good.
     
  6. Skelletonike

    Member Skelletonike ♂ ♥ Gallant Pervert ♥ ♀

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,844
    Location:
    Steam City
    Country:
    Portugal
    I agree with that, a lot of people nowadays would rather get a game sooner and then complain about how it sucked, than wait several years and then get a really good game.
    People are getting used to games getting released every year or so (CoD, sports games like PES, etc etc), but those games are just pretty much the same as the previous games with minor improvements.

    I've never played a Half-Life game, but I'm pretty sure most of the real fans of the series would rather wait and then get a really good game, then just getting a rushed game (especially a game that was as good as Half-Life, the better a game is, the harder it is to make a sequel for it).
     
  7. Guild McCommunist

    Member Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Messages:
    18,151
    Location:
    The Danger Zone
    Country:
    United States
    Richochet is apparently pretty stupid but it was also one of their earliest games and is really the only "not amazing" game out of their collection. The only game you could argue was "rushed" was Left 4 Dead 2, since it came only a year after the original, but even then it was in the makings as an expansion pack but there was so much new content and ideas in it that they decided it was better off as a full retail game. Even then, the game was incredible.
     
  8. Hadrian

    Former Staff Hadrian Better than Craigslist

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2004
    Messages:
    16,978
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Well if they're truly waiting for next gen, why don't they just make a PC version? I mean its the PC gamers this thing mainly sells too and then once the consoles have caught up then they'll do a port or another Orange Box style game.
     
  9. R2DJ

    Member R2DJ GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,900
    Location:
    London
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Which will make console owners wait even more, especially if they know that HL3 is just around the corner.
     
  10. raulpica

    Supervisor raulpica With your drill, thrust to the sky!

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,674
    Location:
    _____________ PowerLevel: 9001
    Country:
    Italy
    What about Episode 3? :(
     
    2 people like this.
  11. Guild McCommunist

    Member Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Messages:
    18,151
    Location:
    The Danger Zone
    Country:
    United States
    Valve recently though has been trying to get a bit more into the console market though. They did simultaneous releases of Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Portal 2, and at one point they were going to do cross-platform multiplayer for CS: GO (I think it was scrapped though). There's also Steam on PS3 but that didn't really take off it seems.

    Plus The Orange Box was good but they completely fucked up on TF2. Nowadays a console version of The Orange Box is basically just Half LIfe 2, it's episodes, and Portal. TF2 is so far behind that it's not even worth playing.
     
  12. Berthenk

    Member Berthenk Epitome of Awesomeness

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,314
    Country:
    Netherlands
    Crossplatform for PC/Mac to PS3 has indeed been scrapped while PC/MAC to 360 never even was an option due to Microsoft being a bitch. PC to Mac is still possible though.
     
  13. totunforster

    Newcomer totunforster Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    5
    Country:
    United States
    Consoles shouldn't matter, everything on computers will look so much better so they are just waiting on the next engine.
     
  14. Wizerzak

    Member Wizerzak Because I'm a potato!

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,784
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    That's a shame, I was looking forwarded to owning some 'controller-ftw' players with my master race mouse and keyboard.
     
    1 person likes this.
  15. Hadrian

    Former Staff Hadrian Better than Craigslist

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2004
    Messages:
    16,978
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    I'm in the "never release it if its not up to expectations" camp. My expectations aren't "best game ever" just something that fits well with the HL universe, has a good story and something that makes sense.

    If the next title is Episode three, well they only have to be better than Episode 1 which wouldn't be hard for them to do but I expect Episode 3 is long dead now.

    I think Valve want this to be their best game, they have their own high standards. New IPs well they just want them to be really good but HL made them what they are so I understand why they take so long on it, They have concepts and they want them to work, they're not like other developers, they work for themselves and only release something when its good for them not just because a publisher needs a game out (which is why a lot of the FPS series have gone downhill).

    I'm no Valve fanboy but I greatly respect them and what they do. They treat their staff well and don't piss on gamers.
     
  16. xdmario1

    Newcomer xdmario1 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    43
    Country:
    United States
    He still can't even say three.
     
  17. Gahars

    Member Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Messages:
    10,254
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Country:
    United States
    I find it kind of comforting that, even when Gabe Newell is being open and frank, he still finds ways to troll his audience like a sir.
     
  18. TwinRetro

    Global Moderator TwinRetro Don't start nothin', Won't be nothin'

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2008
    Messages:
    6,181
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Country:
    United States
    Yeah that explains EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVERYTHIIIIIIIIIIIIIING.......

    still, if Aperture Science and Black Mesa have a major crossover in Episode 3, it would be completely mindblowing.
     
  19. Guild McCommunist

    Member Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Messages:
    18,151
    Location:
    The Danger Zone
    Country:
    United States
    Well it's already known they're in the same universe, although if they take place in the same time period is unknown.

    Although having Chell and Gordon team up for some nasty sexual fan fiction Combine ass kicking, it would be rather awesome.
     
  20. TwinRetro

    Global Moderator TwinRetro Don't start nothin', Won't be nothin'

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2008
    Messages:
    6,181
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Country:
    United States
    Time travel isn't exactly out of the question either. I mean the Half-Life universe is a pretty crazy place.
     

Share This Page