New Wii design- no more backwards compatibility.

[Dingoo-fan 32]

It remembred me the psp e1000 that has no wi-fi to be cheaper

 

[rehevkor]

Sounds fairly sensible to me. At this point Gamecube compatibility is not really a selling point, and probably had limited appeal to the vast majority of Wii owners anyway - so why not offer a cheaper alternative?

I however will keep my Gamecube compatibility. I like playing Twilight Princess how it was meant to be played (and maybe one day I will actually finish SM Sunshine)

 

[VashTS]

im not worried about gamecube games. i AM worried about them patching the holes. i like the ability to say, you got a wii i can hack it. 4.3 had me worried for a minute as well until i got lego indy.

i need some pics to see if i like the idea of a slim wii. but seeing as how my phone is more powerful than the wii, its about time they change the hardware.

 

[KingVamp]

*Snip*

You sir, are taken the (unlikely) worst case scenario.

Anyway, not saying the new wii or psp is bad, it is just weird to me.

The new psp is even weirder.

 

[Yuan]

im not worried about gamecube games. i AM worried about them patching the holes. i like the ability to say, you got a wii i can hack it. 4.3 had me worried for a minute as well until i got lego indy.

i need some pics to see if i like the idea of a slim wii. but seeing as how my phone is more powerful than the wii, its about time they change the hardware.

I don't think nintendo can patch game exploits anymore (at least smash stack, which doesn't rely on save data). But if nintendo still cares about the wii, a System Menu 4.4 or something like will be launched with this model, to at least block letterbomb.

 

[gusmento01]

I have 30 original gamecube games, but no backwards compatibility means I will stay away from it, I would sell my 2007 Wii otherwise to buy the new wii.

 

[Kayot]

I have a BC Wii, but I just play the games on my PC at 1080p. By the time this thing hits selves in the US I'm sure I can pick up a CPU (For the cost of the Wii system no doubt) that's strong enough to handle Wii games as well.

I think this is more for new comers hence the single piece plus controller that Nintendo recently started selling. It'll probably have a price drop to boot.


Now that blasphemy known as PSP E-1000 on the other hand. Ewwww...

 

[nl255]

im not worried about gamecube games. i AM worried about them patching the holes. i like the ability to say, you got a wii i can hack it. 4.3 had me worried for a minute as well until i got lego indy.

i need some pics to see if i like the idea of a slim wii. but seeing as how my phone is more powerful than the wii, its about time they change the hardware.

I don't think nintendo can patch game exploits anymore (at least smash stack, which doesn't rely on save data). But if nintendo still cares about the wii, a System Menu 4.4 or something like will be launched with this model, to at least block letterbomb.

They could block smash stack by patching Brawl in memory as it is being launched (much like gecko codes do). Of course, that might mess up their cheat detection stuff since it would be applying a gameshark code to fix the hole.

 

[TLOZ]

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/...le&id=38782
Looks just like the original Wii.
All the symbols are horizontal now... but apart from that it's just like the Wii.
But worse.

 

[TheDarkSeed]

I'd laugh if you could enable GC loading again just by adding mIOS

(assuming that this new sys is hackable of course

 

[smf]

The creator of Smash Bros once stated that his preferred controller for Brawl was the GC pad. Shame to see it go.

Not a problem.

http://gbatemp.net/t118933-gamecube-to-wiimote-adapter-cool

Konami may have to do something anyway as all their dance mats plug into the gamecube port.

It may be possible to get gamecube software running on them, although it depends on how much money they put into the redesign.
It definately won't just be a case of installing BC/MIOS as you won't be able to control anything.

If they just removed the ports then hacking them back might be possible, but if they removed functionality from the chipset then there is no hope.

The problem with the Wii has always been that you can't run it horizontal and use the gamecube ports, unless you remove the flap. It wouldn't suprise me if that was one of the reasons that they removed the ports altogether.

If this causes the price of old Wii's and gamecubes to increase then I don't mind. It might be worth selling my gamecube in that case, because right now it's almost cheaper to throw it away.

 

[Bladexdsl]

do you guys realize this is the wii lite version and it's not replacing the wii?

 

[Evo.lve]

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You are assuming they don't remove GC compatability from existing systems with an update making it so you can either not play newer Wii games, not play GC games, or hack it to keep both new Wii game support and GC support. All Nintendo would have to do is replace the MIOS with a stub.

Considering the current Wii still has the memory card slot and controller ports I don't think they'd do that. With the PS3 the backwards compatibility in the original systems was workable because of the same control scheme and a compatible disc format (the PS3 reads DVDs of course), things inherent to the system... whereas the original Wii model has hardware in it to specifically allow GC games.

Didn't Sony remove PS2 BC from all PS3s with a firmware update?

AFAIK PS3's that had BC at launch can still play PS2 games on the current FW.

I bought my PS3 a few weeks after the Australian launch in February '07 for about $900 (I know, what a rip off!)

It does not work with PS2 games (and I have tried a lot).

Am I missing something here?

 

[Yuan]

I'd laugh if you could enable GC loading again just by adding mIOS

(assuming that this new sys is hackable of course

 

[prowler]

do you guys realize this is the wii lite version and it's not replacing the wii?

It is replacing the Wii, in Europe.
You guys in America won't see this for a while (or ever).

Edit: Though people still shouldn't be getting mad, there is over 80 million units out there.

 

[rehevkor]

Edit: Though people still shouldn't be getting mad, there is over 80 million units out there.

Yeah, I can't imagine that I'll have much trouble replacing my Wii were it to die.

 

[MightyGeorge]

While DSi did remove Gameboy Advance compatibility, at the very least they added new features, while this time Nintendo adds nothing, they only take away features. They don't make this version desirable, they make it less than desirable. And the "Family Edition" is a really misleading tag. I mean, what kind of "Family Edition" console has only one controller? Also, the fact that they replace the existing Wii model is a load of bs. Oh well, at the very least there are about 30 million Pal Wiis over there. It should be possible to find a cheap used Wii.

 

[Ace]

While DSi did remove Gameboy Advance compatibility, at the very least they added new features, while this time Nintendo adds nothing, they only take away features. They don't make this version desirable, they make it less than desirable. And the "Family Edition" is a really misleading tag. I mean, what kind of "Family Edition" console has only one controller? Also, the fact that they replace the existing Wii model is a load of bs. Oh well, at the very least there are about 30 million Pal Wiis over there. It should be possible to find a cheap used Wii.

Hehe. I can get my hands on one for about 80 bucks, atm. Getting the older Wii will never be an issue, even in Europe.

And to be fair, I'm pretty confident that we'll find a way to blow the security up on this system, as well.
And when that's done.... WOOHOO! ALL OU R GAEMCUBE GAMES ARE BACK!

 

[Wizerzak]

While DSi did remove Gameboy Advance compatibility, at the very least they added new features, while this time Nintendo adds nothing, they only take away features. They don't make this version desirable, they make it less than desirable.

Wait, don't compare this to a DSi.

This is more like the jump between GBA SP and GB Micro.

 

[Themanhunt]

I'm glad I got the Wii when it came out, backwards compatibility is a must for me.