Hacking New feature: Force 16:9 widescreen on gamecube games

[WiiUBricker]

So today I was browsing the gc forever forums and get caught by an interesting post from Extrems, one of your fellow devs in the "scene": http://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12679#p12679

Apparently these guys are planning to add a new feature in Swiss, which will force (genuine?) 16:9 widescreen to gamecube games. Yes, you heard right, chances are you can play your favorite cube games in 16:9

Don't know if crediar is involved in this, but people will surely suggest this feature for DML and DM as well.

 

[Rydian]

By changing the camera values?

That's going to screw with the HUDs on some games, and some graphical effects might not show up properly, blah blah blah.

 

[WiiUBricker]

You may be right. Didn't notice before that the picture looks streched a bit left and right. Perhaps because I never played Mario Sunshine. Let's hope this is due to the current WIP status

 

[Rydian]

I mean this sort of thing. This is from N64 games since I don't have GC stuff set up, but it's some of the possible issues.

You can see the HUD isn't at the sides.

The title screen is a static image, and doesn't extend beyond where the original viewport boundaries are.

The indicator for your cart on the map is displaced way too the side, it's where it would be if the map image was in it's normal place, not where it is now.

Same issue as the mario kart title screen, what's beyond the viewport normally wasn't created.

Another viewport issue with the background.

 

[Sakitoshi]

a similar issue happens in Wario World if you force 480p in the ntsc version, that game have native 480p anyways, but if you force it the FOV changes to 16:9 and the graphics are cut because originaly you don't see outside the 4:3 FOV, i'll post a video of that.

 

[ploggy]

In similar news iirc people have recently done the same thing with ps2 games by using cheat codes.

 

[Fishaman P]

If the same glitches that happen with Dolphin in Force Widescreen Mode happen with this, I'm out.

1) SSBM tags being WAY off at the edges of the screen, some stages have strange colored bars
2) Pokemon Colloseum black textures
3) Lego Star Wars II premature object removal

And too many others to list.

 

[Rydian]

Likely yeah. Premature object removal is a big one as well, but that can't really be shown in a screenshot.

 

[jalaneme]

why is a feature for a gamecube emulator mentioned in the wii hacking section? this has nothing to do with the wii.

 

[Anon10W1z]

So today I was browsing the gc forever forums and get caught by an interesting post from Extrems, one of your fellow devs in the "scene": http://www.gc-foreve...?p=12679#p12679

Apparently these guys are planning to add a new feature in Swiss, which will force (genuine?) 16:9 widescreen to gamecube games. Yes, you heard right, chances are you can play your favorite cube games in 16:9

Don't know if crediar is involved in this, but people will surely suggest this feature for DML and DM as well.

Swiss (I presume) lets you run gamecube games on the Wii. Do you think someone would create a thread like this if it didn't have to do with the Wii? Wouldn't it already be moved by a mod or something?

 

[Sakitoshi]

here the video i promised

 

[WiiUBricker]

why is a feature for a gamecube emulator mentioned in the wii hacking section? this has nothing to do with the wii.

Because this is

a) not a gamecube emulator
b) a feature planned for an application that runs on the Wii
c) DML/DM related

Duh!

 

[Burton]

why is a feature for a gamecube emulator mentioned in the wii hacking section? this has nothing to do with the wii.

Because it is an addition to "Swiss" which is an application for the Wii.

 

[♪Sebastian]

Would love to see this for DML.

 

[Sakitoshi]

just tried the widescreen swiss and looks awesome
here a comparison on Killer 7
http://i48.tinypic.com/27zdk4p.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/147m1s.jpg

 

[♪Sebastian]

WANT! I've read about a lot, but correct me if I'm wrong, can you use Swiss with this hack on a Wii without an SD gecko? I read somewhere you can't, but it's sometimes hard to tell what's up to date or not...

 

[Sakitoshi]

you can launch from retail discs(IDK if backups works with a modchip, but without one doesn't), sd-gecko, usb-gecko, wode, wiikey fusion and qoob, but the last is gamecube only.
i don't own any of the options so i launched my retail disc, also tried smash melee and looks awesome, some graphical errors but enjoyable.

 

[WiiUBricker]

just tried the widescreen swiss and looks awesome
here a comparison on Killer 7
http://i48.tinypic.com/27zdk4p.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/147m1s.jpg

That's definitely 16:9
A must-have feature for GC loaders IMO.

 

[conanac]

Would love to see this for DML.

I have tried incorporating this feature (taken from swiss-gc implementation) to DML v1.4b and it works so far (but some scaling looks off as expected). If anyone wants to try, let me know so I could provide the wad or app files.

Here are the pictures for comparison (inside spoiler)

Spoiler

pokemon xd ntsc force progressive

pokemon xd ntsc force progressive and 16x9

luigi's mansion pal force progressive

luigi's mansion pal force progressive and 16x9

 

[♪Sebastian]

Got Swiss to work with this and tried Twilight Princess, but the graphical errors kinda put me off so I reverted back to 4:3 for now. Still, really cool feature!