New DS confirmed

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I'm gonna get it. Probably. I play my GBA games on my SP and Micro, so the no GBA slot I don't care about. The internal storage(I wonder if homebrew devs will be able to put that to use), integrated browser, thinner, and bigger screens I do like.

So who knows. I"ll see it when it's available in NA. Probably by the summer, or a little earlier.
 
chiseen said:
So the screen increased in size, but the resolution hasn't changed?

Picture quality goes down!!
VERY VERY good point! Increasing screen size and keeping res is going to be a disaster. Already the DS doesn't filter its textures so they're all square-ish just what we need more pixels! =\

If they added the RAM into the DS that would inherently mean improving on hardware... humm... but really, screw it. Its main problem is processing power. They mentioned nothing about new games which could only run on the new DS using its "better hardware". Without that mention, what is it really that the new DS can do and my current one can't? Play music? Take pictures? Record film? Aside from the camera my Supercard can do all that, and DS cameras are dirt cheap for sale on DX if I really MUST have one. Nintendo has made a big mistake.

@ "Just ONE touchscreen": two? Seriously why? It'd be overkill.

KendoKhan: Ohmigod you're right... oh jesus there are SO MANY inconsistencies piling up for their new console... I do hope this is a preview prototype because if they send this into production I am NOT buying it ever!
 
Well it looks good and i hope this is still compatible with my flash carts, i don't like them ditching the gba expansion slot.... they just inadvertently kicked activison in the balls with you not being able to play guitar hero on this now, or any other game that uses the gba slot like the taito paddle or rummble pack,lol.

I guess this will now push forward the real need for gba emulator for slot 1 cards and hopefully this will be powerful enough to get a good snes emulator out....

but now that it uses sd cards and has some internal memory? couldn't it be possible that some one could just hack the DSi thus killing of the need for any flash cards and ending the pirated card market? ( we cant stop you from downloading our games so we might as well make it so other people cant make cards and profit off of us) of course this is just speculation on my behalf if it is indeed hackable.

whats the "i" stand for?
 
tinymonkeyt said:
oh, i dont care what you do with this >.<
im updating as engadget updates
larger screens
2 Cameras? wtf? why do we need 2??
and internal memory?
Whats wrong with two cameras? The outside one would make sense to take pictures whilst the inside one could be used in games (or vice versa etc the possibilities are endless). In fact, your mobile phone probably has two cameras too! Oh noes!

Diablo1123 said:
No gbas sucks
I don't plan on getting it any time soon

Mainly due to lack of GBA

Who plans to actually use that camera?
SD slot would be nice though, will it support > 2 GB?
They never said that some kind of VirtualConsole wouldn't be included. Would seem to make sense to include SDHC support.

lilkerv90210 said:
is there anyway to order this online
Probably will appear on Kakaku and Yahoo Auctions next month, then you'd need to import it

QUOTE(ragde @ Oct 2 2008, 03:23 PM) Hopefully they put better ARM processors. That would put it on a higher end hardware
Wouldn't be backwards compatible with current games unless the processors were just faster then it would be matter of slowing them down in the firmware

QUOTE(Tropicana @ Oct 2 2008, 03:25 PM)
If flashkarts work, and is actually cheaper than the current ds, I'll sell my lite right now, and get it.....

Bigger screen, built in internet, thinner, no gba slot(Good for me, since I don't play gba games, though it'll suck for lots of others).

I want one....
They've changed the firmware, it'd be stupid to not block the current carts but they'd have to retain backwards compatibility so the cart encryption should be the same
 
grubbymitts said:
I wonder if publishers will go down the route of the Super Gameboy for the SNES? What I mean is will they release one cartridge that works fine for the DS but if you stick it in the DSi it uses the other functions/enhances. And we all know how well the Super Gameboy did [/sarcasm]

Really, if this doesn't include better graphics what's the point? Two touch screens and a couple of cameras? Who cares about that?
If it ain't broke then don't fix it. Nintendo doesn't need to include better graphics, they focus on gameplay and this is exactly why the DS and its predecessors have beaten and outsold every portable console before it

Doctor Luigi said:
lilkerv90210 said:
u can call people with this??????????????????????????/
If you have a flash cart with SvSIP downloaded on it (and flash carts still work) you can.

Seems like a possibility, they'd just have to add Skype or something

QUOTE(blizzak @ Oct 2 2008, 03:40 PM) ALso, if anyone knows, or can give a guess what the black circle on the hinge between the two screens? there a smaller hole i assuem to be a mic. I believe it's a camera, for webcam-like purposes...

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Well if you look at the Nintendo Japan website it seems to have a red light coming out of it... maybe some kind of red eye reduction perhaps oO?


QUOTE(Sir-Fritz @ Oct 2 2008, 03:43 PM)
Cant they make something that justplays games these days?
Convergent devices. People don't like having to carry 6 different devices to do different things
 
Opium said:
@Shaun, what's wrong with the DS Lite D-pad?

Seriously? When's the last time you've played a game where you needed diagonals then?

The lack of a GBA slot has me very uninterested in this. DS Ware is cool, but not really that interesting to me. If it has WPA that'd make me much more interested but still, probably not enough for me.
 
beedog19 said:
I read somewhere buried in the kotaku comments that the internal memory is 4Gb. If so, 1, why is Nintendo STILL using bits, and 2, where are they getting all of this 512 MB memory? Who still is mass producing this stuff?
Who cares if they're using bits, other companies use bits too, its an international standard.

Renegade_R said:
I'm glad there's only one touch-screen still...if there was two, it would call for a new medium which would hinder the piracy initiative.

Newsflash people...it is more than likely that your R4DS and TopToys and whatevers they are called will still work in the new DS because it is using the same medium and hence, is using the same method of execution to get the code from the card to boot. If they implemented a new type of protection, it would not be compatible with all the DS games out there. Unfortunately for Nintendo, they cannot change the architecture just yet.
Not sure how two touchscreens is a new medium that would prevent you from running backups. A ROM dump is a ROM dump. Nintendo's pretty smart, maybe they came up with a way to detect flashcarts

retiredjerk said:
this thing is pretty gay if you already have a DS lite. it all seems so gimmicky.im honestly very surprised they are adding an SD slot and releasing this now when the DS lite is selling well. The SD slot could backfire on them and open the floodgates to piracy but im guessing if it is hacked it will be a back and forth fight like with the PSP and the constant firmware updates.
I just think they see huge potential in making money off nintendo points. I think the wii showed them just how much people are willing to pay for classics or new downloadable games. so basically if it gets hacked, who cares!?, they'll make a killing on downloaded content.
knowing nintendo this thing will be hacked and we'll all be playing .nds from the SD slot by 09. although personallyi hope the SD slot never gets hacked, but i hope our EDGE's and R4's work.
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If you can't beat them, join them. If theres no need to make flashcarts that would put all of the manufacturers out of business.

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beedog19 said:
bangbanger said:
PharaohsVizier said:
I hope they made the brightness levels a physical button and not some crappy menu crap.


Maybe that is what the button on the system is. Because why go from a switch on like every system to a button you might press off when you are playing. That would truely suck. Unless you have to hold it down for x ammount of seconds but still would suck.

I guess that could be and they could have just put the switch on the other side. That being said, I still think that's a power button.

The switch relies on a spring and is prone to getting dust and other crap in it (I know I got pear into mine from it sitting in my bag). Push button is much more reliable

ViRGE said:
Seriously, would it have killed Nintendo to do a proper DS upgrade instead of dragging out the DS hardware another 2+ years? The DS's 3D abilities were underpowered at launch, and it's only gotten worse over time. The hardware has nudged developers in to producing RPGs, minigame collections, shovelware, and very little else, because the DS can do very little else. It needs a hardware upgrade to enable new games and bring more variety to the field.

Adding more gimmicks isn't going to encourage new games, it's just going to encourage more crap.
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The bigger screen and SD slot are nice, but it's half the handheld it needs to be.
Each Gameboy except the Color has had three iterations. This would be the third and final. Hell even the PSP is going to have its iteration. I wonder if people complained about the GameBoy Light in Japan when it came out. It only added a backlight

jos7960 said:
Doesnt the SD slot open a possible solution to GBA emulation?

Or maybe the DSware you can download will feature some GBA games. Just like the Wii features NES SNES and N64 games. So maybe we can inject own gba roms into the DSware!

Speculationspeculation
But if happends, then i MIGHT get one.
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Maybe they'll add GBA games in VirtualChannel. Then you could use your Wii to download the games onto the SD card and play them on your DSi.

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beedog19 said:
bangbanger said:
PharaohsVizier said:
ViRGE said:
Looks horizontal to me only. PSP uses the XMB which makes use of both horizontal and vertical scrolling

QUOTE(beedog19 @ Oct 2 2008, 04:40 PM)
QUOTE(Joe88 @ Oct 1 2008, 11:33 PM)
QUOTE(Another World @ Oct 2 2008, 02:30 AM)
no ds card slot, just msd slot? =(

-another world
thats what im wondering

wish there where more pics of the back...
I REALLY hope that Nintendo isn't dumb enough to remove the game playing element from this system and make it download only. If so there would be NO WAY anyone should really consider this an "upgrade" since none of the games that you own would actually work.

Edit: No worries, check out the video and you can clearly see slot-1 when they rotate the system. Put down your pitchforks, no one's storming the Nintendo Castle tonight.
It would be neat to put your games into the internal memory instead of carrying around several carts. Thats why some people buy flashcarts...
 
I think there could be more to the camera than we think.....
It would be amazing if they release some games (naturally, it would have to be DSi only games) that use all functions of NDS (touchscreen, microphone and camera), that would be full-interactive experience..

And just to point out....Camera CAN be used as a motion sensor!! It's not perfect, but it could be used in some games..

I think that this thing looks interesting, I would just like it more if they redesigned thing a little bit....
But, lets wait and see if there will be something more about this..
 
kirby145 said:
-Downloadable games
-SD Slot

It is as if Nintendo enjoys piracy and wants to increase the amount of people doing it.
It might be asking for it but downloadable games and an SD slot does open more possibilities... Nintendo aren't stupid, they're not going to put random things into the console which they think won't sell. A coffee maker would be great but it wouldn't be feasible or remotely relevant

falcon64z8 said:
Why the hell nintendo didn't show all of this at E3???
Because then it would be ages away until launch and the hype would have died down

wackygoose said:
ciper said:
There is only one touch screen.

QUOTE(wackygoose @ Oct 1 2008, 11:50 PM)
yeah... WPA would make it worth buying...
OH NOES! Teh h@ckers are trying to get you. Better turn on the WPA's!
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yeah you didnt get it...

i wont give a shit about security... but almost all places that i go and have a "free internet zone" or something like that... only support WPA

oh yeah and at University i cant put my DS online because of the FUCKING OLD WEP... i know if i go to the Router i can change that but would they liste to me? would they modify their settings just to let me play Mario Kart online? i dont think so
They'd have to change the wifi chip. Costs too much money, might as well use their stockpile of DS/DSL wifi chips
 
Renegade_R said:
The pictures it takes are 640x480...which is 0.3MP...both cameras have that resolution

Edit: It appears to have only one camera.

Edit: But I keep reading everywhere it has two...we shoudl wait for a press release.

I can see two on the pictures. One on the top lid, one in the centre of the hinge. So when the DS is open, you've got one forward-facing camera and one pointing at yourself, rather like mobile phones with dual cameras on (one for photos, one for video calls).
 
knoxvillz said:
not worth it in my opinion, they changed some of the good features of the lite and just made the ds even worst. The camera's seem ok but is it really necessary to make a new ds? if they wanted a camera on the ds/lite why didn't they just add a slot-2 camera add on and update the firmware of the ds/lite to utilize its features? also the screens don't really seem to make that much to me and the battery life sucks aswell on the dsi.
They've probably got more planned.

GameDragon said:
knoxvillz said:
not worth it in my opinion, they changed some of the good features of the lite and just made the ds even worst. The camera's seem ok but is it really necessary to make a new ds? if they wanted a camera on the ds/lite why didn't they just add a slot-2 camera add on and update the firmware of the ds/lite to utilize its features? also the screens don't really seem to make that much to me and the battery life sucks aswell on the dsi.
Like most, theres a high chance that a stronger battery will come out for the DSi.
Unlikely. It'd be cheaper to just use the existing batteries they have for the DS and make a better firmware to increase batter life

QUOTE(ridgecity @ Oct 2 2008, 05:48 PM)
I'm pretty sure Nintendo will try to block flashcards somehow. Maybe this is the end...
Its never the end xD
 
KendoKhan said:
they just inadvertently kicked activison in the balls with you not being able to play guitar hero on this now
I'm sure it Activision are happy enough being able to sell the GH games to the millions of DS owners already, and now they can release a new add on, if its possible.
 
I just saw... they put the power button WHERE?! Under the cross pad?!

Oh well if they included a music player we might at least be able to expect decent headphones volume... well, YOU might, I'm not getting this thing. =\
 
Searinox said:
- No GBA Slot

Okay is it NOW time for someone to write a slot-1 GBA emulator??? Actually why am I even calling it slot-1 since there's no more slot-2? And how the hell do ya use the DS browser if there's no GBA slot?

Bigger screens YAY! But seriously, no improved hardware?! We're just gonna have the same old graphics?
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Ediblebird: There is not going to be WPA support as long as they don't plan to update the damn hardware. There is not enough processing power to play a game wifi and have it encrypt WPA at the same time, which is just another reason for me to be pissed at them.

Yeah the webcam's nice. Media storage. Woo! Now that solved alot of problems. I'm severely disappointed that there is no hardware improvements and that they took out the GBA slot. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???
im starting to think i should have bought an PSP and wait for something like DS2
 
do you guys think they added wpa/wpa2? can the ds processor handle it?

is the ds hardware powerful enough to emulate a gameboy advance if the emu code if extremely efficient? that lack of slot-2 is a show stopper.
 

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