Muslim & Atheist Debate, Interesting!

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  1. Haider Raza
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  2. ItsMetaKnight

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    I only watched the first two, but I think I've seen enough. It's sad how aggressively they're trying to put words into the Atheist's mouth he didn't even say. It's also unfair how they're asking him questions based on their islamic beliefs instead of accepting his non-nonbelieving.

    From the point of Islam, Islamic people think the Atheist is risking hellfire.
    From the point of Atheism, the Atheist isn't risking anything, but instead Islamic people are risking wasting their lifetime and free will.

    The Athest may seem to be struggling, but that's because 1) it makes no sense asking the other party a question based on a point he is not a believer of, and 2) he's being attacked by multiple people who are not even letting him finish his explanations.
     
  3. Flame

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    this thread is only going to end well.
     
  4. jimbo13

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    Islam & Atheism have a lot in common, both violent and authoritarian in nature. No use for either.

     
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    i thought we weren't allowed these sort of threads
     
  6. yusuo

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    We're not, ok we are but they are very frowned upon
     
  7. WiiUBricker

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    Well you would think that when they allow a thread and videos of a murderer who shot an innocent man, surely they would allow this thread.

    Also I agree with the first comment in this thread. Muslims tend to get too defensive when it's about their beliefs, especially those who don't have an academic education. I'm sure this is partly due to the strict parental education in most families.
     
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  8. John_Kirky

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    I think you misunderstand Atheism. It is not a religion and it is not authoritarian (there is no Atheist-Pope... No elected leader of the Atheist movement...)
    I would not call myself an atheist... simply because it is no faith. It's simply that I do not have a faith. and why should I? There is absolutely no proof of god.
    None, nada. Nobody in their right mind would for example say he Round-Earther... because he does not support the Flat-Earth Theory. That is because the Flat-Earth Theory
    is so idiotic that nobody even bothers to dispute it. Same as religion. Why bother to dispute it? It is a load of bullshit.

    Who says atheism is a faith also believe the "off"-switch on the TV is another chanel :-)
     
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    I am well aware Atheists like to go to their convention with their symbols and pretend they aren't any type of organized community. Then discuss how they never had any type of intrinsic relationship with the communist totalitarian states of the 1900's despite Gosateizm but some of us have picked up a history book.

    Even Hitchens acknowledged that Atheism & Marxism were bedfellows.
     
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    You could argue that atheists have faith in not having a faith.
     
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    ooooooookay.... not sure if sarcasm or genuine tin-foil-head-wearing-barking-mad....

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    Nope...because I do not actively believe that there is not god. Would be the same as arguing I have faith that I cannot Fly, that I have faith that the grass is green, that I have faith that the earth is (more or less) round...
    It's so fundamentally absurd to believe in god that it is not necessary to "believe" it does not exist.
     
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    Before watching the videos, I'll just say that those argues don't really matter. Let everyone believe in what they want to believe, or just let them do choose to not believe. As long as it won't hurt any other people it is perfectly fine. So why those decisions can't change with an argue?
    1. Because of that you born with at the most 2 options and you won't really change it unless your enviornment is supporting this
    2. Because you're in position of defending your opinion

    I will maybe comment more after watching the videos
     
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    So you're saying that you're an empty shell of a being, then? :unsure:
     
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    That or maybe you're just ignorant of Russian history and that's why you resort to the adhominem instead of refuting the point. States founded on an acknowledged principal of atheism, which are numerous are universally totalitarian shitholes.

    There was a tinge of sarcasm, because one of those most obnoxious parts of the faith based belief of Atheism is denying they ever have had any type of organizational structure at anytime or at any point in history while universally condemning religions involvement in civilization.
     
  15. tech3475

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    Because we should all believe in what you believe and you believe your belief is not guilty of any of these things?
     
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    Gee, I sure love having religious discussions in my gaming and hacking community site...
    Why are these threads even a thing? Do you desperately need everyone else to know what you think or believe? Personally, I'd like to call for a thread close and a temporary ban on these kind of threads.


    Nothing good comes out of them...
     
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    @John_Kirky by that logic theres also no proof that there isnt a god. Which is why heated debates over this are pointless cause people with actual working brains know theres no "solid" evidence and never will be to prove either side so id say drop it and let people believe what they want to believe cause its gives them and their lives meaning to live the way they see to be best.
     
  18. shadoom

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    i prefer the "iosuhax when" posts instead of this garbage
     
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    "Any" is a little broad of a metric don't you think? As far a spectrum Some is better than All.

    I am just a simple Deist, "God" might be a Alien with a Petri dish or an AI running an elaborate version of the SIMS. My only firm belief is that of a creator or intervening force. I reject the notion that life has perservered or thrived through sheer chance.

    That said I will happily defend the fact Western Civilization is a product of Christians and it is far superior to anything Atheists or Muslims have produced. Any place worth living, that has any tradition of human rights or freedom was founded by people rooted in a Christian culture with few exceptions.
     
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    If everyone in the world was dying, and you knew the cure, what kind of a monster would you have to be to not share it?

    As for the thread itself, if you don't like it you can simply not read it. It's not like it's doing you and harm.
     
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