Hardware Mig Switch on Switch 2

[dolpf]

I won't be able to verify this because my Switch 2 firmware will not be updated until we have exploits and CFW

No problem, I understand you. So you play these updated games on firmware 20.1.1?
Can you publish the list of all updated games?

That way we can know if it is a game-by-game problem

Another problem might be that you have firmware 20.1.5, and eggwolio has firmware 20.1.1. Maybe on version 20.1.1 it was possible to update the BOTW, but on 20.1.5 this option has already been removed.
In the video you showed a Super Mario Maker 2 cartridge. Have you tried updating it via Switch 1? Or does this game run without updating on Switch 2 with firmware 20.1.5?

Dear testers, please do not ignore the questions!
Your answers are very important for all those banned and those who will soon be banned!

Based on your messages, I have compiled a preliminary list of games that can/cannot be updated and launched with Mig on a banned Switch 2:
• Starlink: Battle for Atlas - can be updated, can be launched (on 20.1.1)
• Super Mario 3D All-Stars - cannot be updated, cannot be launched (on 20.1.1)
• Super Mario Odyssey - cannot be updated, can be launched (on 20.1.1)
• The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - cannot be updated, cannot be launched (on 20.1.5)

 

[eggwolio]

I'll share a list this evening(US, Central Time). I was also going to share screenshots of the update process but apparently Switch 2 requires signing into a Nintendo Account or an SD Express card to get your files off the system. I don't have a card and can't sign in so...

Post automatically merged: Jun 20, 2025

Here are all the games on my MIG card. The ones that updated via local update say "Matched," some had no updates and the two I mentioned above would not update.


AEW: Fight Forever - Matched
Bitmap Bureau Collection - no updates
Cadence of Hyrule: Crypt of the NecroDancer featuring The Legend of Zelda - Matched
Cobra Kai: The Karate Kid Saga Continues - Matched
Cult of the Lamb - Matched
DC's Justice League: Cosmic Chaos - Matched
Disney Illusion Island - Matched
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - Matched
Hellmutt: The Badass From Hell - no updates
Kirby and the Forgotten Land - no updates
Metroid Prime Remastered - no updates
Nintendo Switch Sports - Matched
Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition - Matched
Pikmin 1 + 2 - no updates
Ring Fit Adventure - no updates
Rush of Rain - no updates
Risk of Rain 2 - Matched
Skylanders Imaginators - Matched
Sonic Frontiers - Matched
Sonic Mania - no updates
Sonic Origins - Matched
Starlink: Battle For Atlas - Matched
Stern Pinball Arcade - Matched
Super Mario 3D All-Stars - won't update
Super Mario Bros. Wonder - Matched
Super Mario Odyssey - won't update
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Mania - Matched
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Rumble - Matched
Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido - Matched
WarioWare: Get It Together! - no updates
WarioWare: Move It! - no updates

Post automatically merged: Jun 20, 2025

I realize now that I've listed them there were only 19 updates, despite my earlier claim of 20+. I apologize for overestimating.

 

[dolpf]

Here are all the games on my MIG card.

Thank you very much for the list!
Did I understand correctly that all these games work (run) with Mig on your Switch 2 with firmware 20.1.1? Or are there some that do not run?

 

[RyH2]

I'll share a list this evening(US, Central Time). I was also going to share screenshots of the update process but apparently Switch 2 requires signing into a Nintendo Account or an SD Express card to get your files off the system. I don't have a card and can't sign in so...

Post automatically merged: Jun 20, 2025

Here are all the games on my MIG card. The ones that updated via local update say "Matched," some had no updates and the two I mentioned above would not update.


AEW: Fight Forever - Matched
Bitmap Bureau Collection - no updates
Cadence of Hyrule: Crypt of the NecroDancer featuring The Legend of Zelda - Matched
Cobra Kai: The Karate Kid Saga Continues - Matched
Cult of the Lamb - Matched
DC's Justice League: Cosmic Chaos - Matched
Disney Illusion Island - Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - Matched
Hellmutt: The Badass From Hell - no updates
Kirby and the Forgotten Land - no updates
Metroid Prime Remastered - no updates
Nintendo Switch Sports - Matched
Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition - Matched
Pikmin 1 + 2 - no updates
Ring Fit Adventure - no updates
Rush of Rain - no updates
Risk of Rain 2 - Matched
Skylanders Imaginators - Matched
Sonic Frontiers - Matched
Sonic Mania - no updates
Sonic Origins - Matched
Starlink: Battle For Atlas - Matched
Stern Pinball Arcade - Matched
Super Mario 3D All-Stars - won't update
Super Mario Bros. Wonder - Matched
Super Mario Odyssey - won't update
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Mania - Matched
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Rumble - Matched
Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido - Matched
WarioWare: Get It Together! - no updates
WarioWare: Move It! - no updates

Post automatically merged: Jun 20, 2025

I realize now that I've listed them there were only 18 updates, despite my earlier claim of 20+. I apologize for overestimating.

The two that won't update are the only two with Switch 2 updates. I bet you could locally update them with another Switch 2 rather than a Switch 1.

 

[Inaki]

With the new TOS, you cannot partecipate into a class action against Nintendo: https://www.polygon.com/nintendo/598413/nintendo-switch-eula-lawsuit-class-action

That doesn't work in the EU. A TOS/EULA can't go against law/norm or, as in this case, against very fundamental basics. I mean, what ?! a contract saying you willingly drop your right to sue the company ?! what kind of brain fart is that you can sign that TOS/EULA in blood, it is worth nothing.

 

[mammoth_dream]

when I tried earlier to locally update botw I so could use the switch 2 upgrade it also failed. First I figured it was the mig, so I tried the cart and it still failed. Tried again with pokemon violet, it failed with the mig, it failed with the cart. I don't have more carts to test.

I'm visiting family and someone has smash brothers so I tried using his cart, Works flawlessly.

It must just be updates that correspond to switch 2 stuff.

If there's an update that's needed to get the totk upgrade to work I bet it would behave the same way and fail.

 

[eggwolio]

The two that won't update are the only two with Switch 2 updates. I bet you could locally update them with another Switch 2 rather than a Switch 1.

I also find this to be very likely but not something I can test anytime soon

Post automatically merged: Jun 21, 2025

I have just tested them all.

The following games work(boot and let me past the start screen) on MIG Switch on 20.1.1:

AEW: Fight Forever
Bitmap Bureau Collection(Battle Axe, Xeno Crisis, Final Vendetta)
Cadence of Hyrule: Crypt of the NecroDancer featuring The Legend of Zelda
Cobra Kai: The Karate Kid Saga Continues
Cult of the Lamb
DC's Justice League: Cosmic Chaos
Disney Illusion Island
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Hellmutt: The Badass From Hell
Kirby and the Forgotten Land
Metroid Prime Remastered
Nintendo Switch Sports
Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition
Pikmin 1 + 2
Ring Fit Adventure
Rush of Rain
Risk of Rain 2
Skylanders Imaginators
Sonic Frontiers
Sonic Mania
Sonic Origins
Starlink: Battle For Atlas
Stern Pinball Arcade
Super Mario Bros. Wonder
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Mania
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Rumble
Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido
WarioWare: Get It Together!
WarioWare: Move It!

The following games don't work:

Super Mario 3D All-Stars

 

[xps2]

RatchetRussian yo sorry i feel your pain​

yea is kinda wire

i have tested with switch 1 with switch 1 is working fine update

switch 2 2.0.1.1 not ban
switch 1 oled 20.1.5 not ban

i have tested with switch 2 with switch 2 is working fine update same that above

"
switch 2 2.0.1.1 not ban
switch 1 oled 20.1.5 not ban
i have tested with switch 1 with switch 2 in some game it give an error fail update
Error Code 2211-0520

can not update it give an error fail update
Error Code 2211-0520
same that above i have tested with switch 2 with switch 1 can not update it give an error fail update
Error Code 2211-0520
switch 2 2.0.1.5 not ban
switch 1 oled 20.1.5 not ban
same that above i have tested with switch 2 with switch 1 can not update it give an error fail update Error Code 2211-0520 "

i have tested with switch 1 with switch 2 in some game is working fine

 

[Doomswitch]

This is direct info from the mig switch team.

Just make sure you update the card to the newest update 1.2.0 and use authentic game back ups. And you will have no issues as told to us by the MiG team, they have been testing 50 units non stop since switch 2 release. No bans yet with authentic back ups and they do lots like swap migs between consoles and much more.

 

[dolpf]

use the switch 2

What is the firmware version of your switch 2 - 20.1.1 or 20.1.5?

Tried again with pokemon violet, it failed with the mig, it failed with the cart.

Does the Pokemon Violet run on Switch 2 without updating?

 

[HiSpange]

The Super Mario 3D All-Stars update works for me!

 

[Shubshub]

Much like how they played cat and mouse for a little bit with DS Flashcards I imagine theyll eventually figure out how to permanently block mig cards

 

[AshWeststar]

Now, tell me what you want, guys, but this is an - extreme, I admit, but real - example of how "online banned" means clear and unacceptable functionality crippling. This SHOULDN'T stand a chance in court in the EU.

@AshWeststar what about this case ?

In the video, we see two scenarios.

• Scenario 1: Nintendo Switch 1 offers three options when inserting BOTW. Launch anyway, download the update, and then cancel.
• Scenario 2: Nintendo Switch 2 offers two options when inserting BOTW. Download update, cancel.

In the second scenario, an issue could arise if neither Switch 2 nor BOTW specified that an update might be required. From the European Switch 2 box I scanned, this is clearly covered for "compatible Nintendo Switch software" (I had to dig through my trash to find this; this would have been a clear violation of EU law if this didn't exist for requiring updates):

For a banned console, if updates cannot be downloaded, the inability to launch without updating on Switch 2 might prevent play, unlike Switch 1's "Launch anyway" option. However, this is a consequence of the ban, not a legal issue with the game's update requirement. Bans are governed by service agreements, and under the Unfair Contract Terms Directive, termination for breaches, such as combating piracy, is permissible if it is fair. Thus, the update requirement itself isn't illegal; the ban's impact is a separate contractual matter.

The Sale of Goods Directive applies to physical goods, including game cartridges with digital elements. It requires goods to conform to the contract, including being fit for their intended purpose (Article 7). For goods with digital elements, traders must ensure that digital content remains accessible as agreed upon, but this is subject to the contract terms, which may include update requirements; this contract can be broken within the terms of the UCTD discussed above.

The Consumer Rights Directive requires the provision of pre-contractual information to consumers, including the main characteristics of goods or services (Article 6). For digital content, this includes functionality and compatibility, ensuring that consumers are informed before making a purchase (covered by the Switch 2 box, EULA, ToS, etc).

The evidence leans toward no violation, as updates ensure conformity, and the box's notice likely covers disclosure. However, there's debate on whether game-specific update requirements should be more precise, especially for banned consoles. You may seek a legal return for physical cartridges purchased after a ban, arguing they're unfit, but this is unlikely to succeed given the notice on the Switch 2's box and the ban's contractual nature.

From what I have been able to determine, requiring updates on Switch 2 is legal, as the console box's notice fulfils EU disclosure requirements, aligning with the Digital Content Directive's conformity standards. The absence of updated text on the cartridge box doesn't violate the law (I wasn't able to find a European box to look at; I'm assuming the text isn't there), given the overall information. For banned consoles, the issue is the ban's impact, not the requirement for an update, which does not appear to be a violation either since this would have been considered a fair contract termination for service.

Edit: Minor text fixes; why do I always see these after I posted!? Also, I find it funny that comment #666 is what summons me.

 

[Inaki]

In the video, we see two scenarios.

• Scenario 1: Nintendo Switch 1 offers three options when inserting BOTW. Launch anyway, download the update, and then cancel.
• Scenario 2: Nintendo Switch 2 offers two options when inserting BOTW. Download update, cancel.

In the second scenario, an issue could arise if neither Switch 2 nor BOTW specified that an update might be required. From the European Switch 2 box I scanned, this is clearly covered for "compatible Nintendo Switch software" (I had to dig through my trash to find this; this would have been a clear violation of EU law if this didn't exist for requiring updates):

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For a banned console, if updates cannot be downloaded, the inability to launch without updating on Switch 2 might prevent play, unlike Switch 1's "Launch anyway" option. However, this is a consequence of the ban, not a legal issue with the game's update requirement. Bans are governed by service agreements, and under the Unfair Contract Terms Directive, termination for breaches, such as combating piracy, is permissible if it is fair. Thus, the update requirement itself isn't illegal; the ban's impact is a separate contractual matter.

The Sale of Goods Directive applies to physical goods, including game cartridges with digital elements. It requires goods to conform to the contract, including being fit for their intended purpose (Article 7). For goods with digital elements, traders must ensure that digital content remains accessible as agreed upon, but this is subject to the contract terms, which may include update requirements; this contract can be broken within the terms of the UCTD discussed above.

The Consumer Rights Directive requires the provision of pre-contractual information to consumers, including the main characteristics of goods or services (Article 6). For digital content, this includes functionality and compatibility, ensuring that consumers are informed before making a purchase (covered by the Switch 2 box, EULA, ToS, etc).

The evidence leans toward no violation, as updates ensure conformity, and the box's notice likely covers disclosure. However, there's debate on whether game-specific update requirements should be more precise, especially for banned consoles. You may seek a legal return for physical cartridges purchased after a ban, arguing they're unfit, but this is unlikely to succeed given the notice on the Switch 2's box and the ban's contractual nature.

From what I have been able to determine, requiring updates on Switch 2 is legal, as the console box's notice fulfils EU disclosure requirements, aligning with the Digital Content Directive's conformity standards. The absence of updated text on the cartridge box doesn't violate the law (I wasn't able to find a European box to look at; I'm assuming the text isn't there), given the overall information. For banned consoles, the issue is the ban's impact, not the requirement for an update, which does not appear to be a violation either since this would have been considered a fair contract termination for service.

Edit: Minor text fixes; why do I always see these after I posted!? Also, I find it funny that comment #666 is what summons me.

Comment #666, I am the devil in disguise, of course

I appreciate the detailed answer and effort. But if I understand the video poster, he is stuck, he cannot play something he already got because it won't run without updating and he cannot update. I find it difficult to... what is the term here... difficult to accept, maybe, that EU law would permit this. Not saying that what you say is false ! just sayimg this, for me, is an abusive scenario, like, thinking in moral terms maybe, I see this as an actual abuse from nintendo.

 

[AshWeststar]

Comment #666, I am the devil in disguise, of course

I appreciate the detailed answer and effort. But if I understand the video poster, he is stuck, he cannot play something he already got because it won't run without updating and he cannot update. I find it difficult to... what is the term here... difficult to accept, maybe, that EU law would permit this. Not saying that what you say is false ! just sayimg this, for me, is an abusive scenario, like, thinking in moral terms maybe, I see this as an actual abuse from nintendo.

The ban's impact, turning a €500 console into a paperweight for what some of us may consider a minor infraction, is going to feel harsh.

Despite being legally permissible, such outcomes can be immoral because they clash with our expectations of ownership. Buying a console and games feels like purchasing a product. Still, in reality, we're actually buying access to a service with ongoing terms and conditions that must be adhered to. Which is different from the past, when goods were all self-contained. This perception is amplified by the digital economy's shift, where consumers like you and I feel less control, and by the difficulty and cost of challenging bans.

I mentioned in a previous post that the onerous is on us to prove our innocence when it comes to contracts being terminated for breaches. What I find personally immoral and reprehensible about the current situation is that we're locked out of these devices and can't inspect logs or gather data. Yet, we're expected to provide that evidence to prove that a ban was misapplied. In fact, doing so would lead to a catch-22 situation where we would be in breach to prove we weren't in breach.

I have a considerable concern that one day, I will receive a ban for something I didn't do and will have little recourse to address it. Despite living in countries that are very pro-consumer, this scenario isn't in our favour currently.

 

[eggwolio]

This is direct info from the mig switch team.

Just make sure you update the card to the newest update 1.2.0 and use authentic game back ups. And you will have no issues as told to us by the MiG team, they have been testing 50 units non stop since switch 2 release. No bans yet with authentic back ups and they do lots like swap migs between consoles and much more.

Every single file on my card is my own authentic back up. This did not prevent a ban.

 

[Blavla]

With the new TOS, you cannot partecipate into a class action against Nintendo: https://www.polygon.com/nintendo/598413/nintendo-switch-eula-lawsuit-class-action

That does not apply to EU it´s agains the EU laws

 

[eggwolio]

The Super Mario 3D All-Stars update works for me!

Is your console banned? How did you update?

 

[HiSpange]

Is your console banned? How did you update?

I am not locked, update from Switch 1 / 19.0.1 to Switch 2 / 20.1.1 Transferred

 

[bth]

I am not locked, update from Switch 1 / 19.0.1 to Switch 2 / 20.1.1 Transferred

Funny of you to give all of these people false hope then.