Microsoft Removes Mandatory Kinect Connection

[JulietStMoon]

"HEY MICROSOFT, I WON'T BUY YOUR CONSOLE UNLESS YOU FIX THIS, THIS AND THIS"
>Microsoft fixes
"HEY MICROSOFT! I WONT BUY YOUR CONSOLE BECAUSE YOU'RE A LITTLE BITCH FOR RETRACTING THE THINGS I WANTED YOU TOO"

Fucking people are more indecisive and greedy then a 600 lb woman at an all you can eat buffet.

In their defense, Microsoft was the fat 600 lb woman first.

 

[grossaffe]

"HEY MICROSOFT, I WON'T BUY YOUR CONSOLE UNLESS YOU FIX THIS, THIS AND THIS"
>Microsoft fixes
"HEY MICROSOFT! I WONT BUY YOUR CONSOLE BECAUSE YOU'RE A LITTLE BITCH FOR RETRACTING THE THINGS I WANTED YOU TOO"

Fucking people are more indecisive and greedy then a 600 lb woman at an all you can eat buffet.

More like:
Consumers: "Hey Microsoft, I don't like what you're doing with your console"
Microsoft: "Shut up and give me your money you stupid piece of shit"
>Preorder numbers come in and it's not selling
Microsoft: "Umm... we've listened to what our customers had to say and think we should change things"
Consumers: "Too late, asshole, you've already revealed your true colors"

 

[Aqua1234]

More like:
Consumers: "Hey Microsoft, I don't like what you're doing with your console"
Microsoft: "Shut up and give me your money you stupid piece of shit"
>Preorder numbers come in and it's not selling
Microsoft: "Umm... we've listened to what our customers had to say and think we should change things"
Consumers: "Too late, asshole, you've already revealed your true colors"

Bingo, exactly this, I've lost all respect to Microsoft, for all the shit they did. Oh, well, maybe they'll gain it back eventually.

 

[retKHAAAN]

More like:
Consumers: "Hey Microsoft, I don't like what you're doing with your console"
Microsoft: "Shut up and give me your money you stupid piece of shit"
>Preorder numbers come in and it's not selling
Microsoft: "Umm... we've listened to what our customers had to say and think we should change things"
Consumers: "Too late, asshole, you've already revealed your true colors"

Right, because their preorder numbers are pretty weak. They're so bad that I can't even preorder it from GameStop anymore...

You have any figures to share or did you pull the "preorders not selling" bit out your ass?

 

[grossaffe]

Right, because their preorder numbers are pretty weak. They're so bad that I can't even preorder it from GameStop anymore...

You have any figures to share or did you pull the "preorders not selling" bit out your ass?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/14/e3-2013-ps4-outpacing-xbox-one-pre-orders

 

[JulietStMoon]

Right, because their preorder numbers are pretty weak. They're so bad that I can't even preorder it from GameStop anymore...

You have any figures to share or did you pull the "preorders not selling" bit out your ass?

The preorders are doing great now, but before reversing the DRM policies, the PS4 preorder numbers were pummeling the Xbox One preorder numbers.

 

[retKHAAAN]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/14/e3-2013-ps4-outpacing-xbox-one-pre-orders

Thank you, however, there is no data there.

 

[Taleweaver]

In their defense, Microsoft was the fat 600 lb woman first.

(hopefully I'm calculating from kg correctly) And now that "she" has lost 450 pounds, isn't it time to cut back on the proverbial fatty jokes?


I'm really wondering...if nintendo had done this controversial "listening to the customer"-thing...would these same people be booing them for changing the wiiu name?

 

[Lestworth]

Hmmmmmmm

 

[Sefi]

Always good news for a company to recognize their past mistakes, listen to consumers, and make changes for the better.

However, many people are angrier about Microsoft trying to implement these features in the first place rather than what is current. They thought they could "get away with it" for lack of a better term, and only reversed on many things after it was clear their sales would be effected enough to warrant changes.

 

[chavosaur]

Snippy

You seem to forget how the game community reacts to anything. About anything. Let me fix it for you.

Consumers: "Hey Microsoft, You're a fucking piece of shit company that deserves to have your family slaughtered in their sleep and I hope you all get lit on fire."
Microsoft: "Sorry you feel that way, but we won't be changing our policies, we believe this is the best direction for our consumers.

>continued fan feedback and hate

Microsoft: "We have decided due to fan reaction and much feedback, to reverse our policies and listen to the fans we turned our backs on.
Consumers: "Hey Microsoft, You're a fucking piece of shit company that deserves to have your family slaughtered in their sleep and I hope you all get lit on fire."

The gaming community is full of some of the most ridiculous and hateful people. It'd be nicer if people fucking grew up for a second and realized that Microsoft made mistakes (we can all see and admit that, even they admit it) and they're trying to fix it for their fans.
It's not a freaking cop out. It's them doing what a company SHOULD DO, instead of doing whatnot company's do. Hold up their middle fingers and not listen to a thing you say.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Right, because their preorder numbers are pretty weak. They're so bad that I can't even preorder it from GameStop anymore...

You have any figures to share or did you pull the "preorders not selling" bit out your ass?

The Pre-orders weren't selling at first before the changes. PS4 was just absolutely shitting on the Xbox One's Preorder. Hell, in some countries, such as Canada, the fucking Ouya was ahead of the Xbox One. It's only recently that pre-orders have evened out, but still.

 

[JulietStMoon]

(hopefully I'm calculating from kg correctly) And now that "she" has lost 450 pounds, isn't it time to cut back on the proverbial fatty jokes?


I'm really wondering...if nintendo had done this controversial "listening to the customer"-thing...would these same people be booing them for changing the wiiu name?

I never said it was a bad thing that Microsoft made these changes. Take a look at my previous posts here. (I know you're not talking about me specifically, I'm just saying.)

And there's a huge difference between "we're changing the name to something cooler" and "we're finally reversing a bunch of stupid, unnecessary, sometimes anti-consumer policies that we shouldn't have even considered in the first place."

It's certainly a good thing that Microsoft is reversing these policies. But you can't blame people for still being suspicious or angry after all that's went down.

 

[tj_cool]

They're slowly removing everything the Xbox One stood for in the first place.

Removing the Kinect from the box would be a bad move in my opinion.
If the Kinect isn't guaranteed to be at least present, most developers would probably ignore it.
Perhaps it'll be ignored regardless, but at least it has some potential now.
The Xbox One really needs at least some advantages over the PS4 if it wants to sell :/

 

[Jamstruth]

This is kind of stupid. They want to push the Kinect as a viable system for gaming (it's not but it would be fun to find out) and without requiring it a lot of the features of the XBone become moot. I actually like the idea of ordering my electronics around without an interface device in my hands.

This is one backtrack where I have to say that people are stupid. People were acting ridiculously paranoid about it "watching their every move" and sending that info the NSA. Newsflash kiddies! Nearly all of you have a laptop. When you turn that laptop on power goes to it's webcam. If you're this paranoid about the fuckin' Kinect then put some tape over your webcam stat!

 

[Hells Malice]

Devs ignoring the Kinect is a good thing.
I dunno how it could ever be seen as a bad thing. Kinect is retarded, I'm sure there'll still be plenty of devs using it to add horrendous controls to their terrible games, as per the usual.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Seems M$ should have just released the Specs of the Xbox Dumb and Games coming to the system and said nothing else.......


Its Almost as if we were all trapped in the Twilight Zone

And winner for the most hamfisted nickname goes to...

420yolosmokeweedeveryday!

Like might as well call it the "Xbox Poopassbutts" while we're at it.

 

[Taleweaver]

So erm...are there actually one launch games that DO utilise the kinect in some way, then? Because if so...I sure as hell missed it from the presentations. All I remember it being was a buttonless remote control.





xwatchmanx: I know it wasn't you who said it, but I'd rather not have to search and quote about a dozen guys who just keeps blaming microsoft no matter what (heck...I just quoted one just last post).

 

[FAST6191]

Devs ignoring the Kinect is a good thing.
I dunno how it could ever be seen as a bad thing. Kinect is retarded, I'm sure there'll still be plenty of devs using it to add horrendous controls to their terrible games, as per the usual.

Given this is kinect V2 (supposedly more accurate and lower in latency among things) might that have changed?
Given it represents less of a financial risk for the would be game developer might that change things?
As you are no longer selling "a kinect game" and having to justify the label might the option to focus on conventional controls but maybe have secondary kinect commands (voice, movement, controller recognition....) work?

This could go on for a while but for the time being I shall have to level accusations of your having an ill considered opinion.

 

[retKHAAAN]

This is kind of stupid. They want to push the Kinect as a viable system for gaming (it's not but it would be fun to find out) and without requiring it a lot of the features of the XBone become moot. I actually like the idea of ordering my electronics around without an interface device in my hands.

This is one backtrack where I have to say that people are stupid. People were acting ridiculously paranoid about it "watching their every move" and sending that info the NSA. Newsflash kiddies! Nearly all of you have a laptop. When you turn that laptop on power goes to it's webcam. If you're this paranoid about the fuckin' Kinect then put some tape over your webcam stat!

Upon first glance, I thought you ended that post with "If you're this paranoid about the fuckin' Kinect then put some tape over your webcam slut!"...