IOSUHAX CFW vs REDNAND

Discussion in 'Wii U - Hacking & Backup Loaders' started by KevinX8, Nov 13, 2016.

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Which do you use?

  1. REDNAND

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    28.1%
  2. IOSUHAX CFW

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    59.0%
  3. Vanilla all the way son

    18 vote(s)
    12.9%
  1. KevinX8
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    Currently there are two ways you can use to get full access to your wii u to do whatever you want to it they are iosu cfw and rednand respectively. This thread is mainly for newcomers unsure of what to install on their brand new haxorz machines. On this Thread I will post there pro's and con's for each one and update them as time goes on. Eventually once boot 0 cfw comes out iosu CFW will obvs win so rednand will become redundant but for now its still useful so wait until then.

    Why do I want any cfw?
    The main reason you would want custom firmware is to install unsigned tickets for things like eshop titles and DLC. You can also install Regionhax allowing you to run any game region free forever. Atm its not very useful to the end user just for experimenting really

    IOSU CFW
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    REDNAND
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    For anyone that is unaware you can install unsigned titles of any kind on both just fine(includes eshop only titles,DLC etc.)

    NUSpacker on sysNAND now works if you use @Maschell 's fork here

    If you feel I have left any pros or cons out feel free to leave a reply with what I missed

    You can weight out what is best for yourself from these pros and cons, the current iosuhax cfw I use can be found here and is maintained by @FIX94 and for redNAND installs the recommended fork is @dimok 's one here , neither of these could have been possible without @smealum so thank him for his work too.
     
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  2. xtheman

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    You should add the sysnand cfw can run Wii VC (You know the special wii eshop titles with gamepad support)
    And Rednand can't run vWii.
     
  3. DarkGabbz

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    nvm
     
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  4. Hayleia

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    Isn't another pro for redNAND the fact that it allows keeping the Wii U to a hackable firmware (on sysNAND) but still having access to the latest firmware (on redNAND)?
    Well, not relevant today since the latest is hackable, but maybe it should be added anyway as a possibility if it's the case.
     
  5. KevinX8
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    yeah thats true will add that also will add sysconfig tool thosent work on sysNAND because its system titles aswell
     
  6. xtheman

    xtheman GBAtemp Guru

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    You need 64 GB sd card if you have the black 32 gb wii u is what they meant.
     
  7. NexoCube

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    wtf, iosuhax is the "tool-chain" that permits us to create some patched fw.img so it should be "redNAND fw.img VS WUPserver fw.img"
     
  8. xtheman

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    Updating in rednand will brick it so that is pointless (Several devs have proved that)
     
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  9. Hayleia

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    LOL. Well, I thought this would be a pro since it is (or was, before a9lh) the case on the 3DS, and it was even its goal.
     
  10. Rusb

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    The best would be sysnand with coldboot recovery like we had on wii
     
  11. BIFFTAZ

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    My dump/install took around 1 1/2 hour to dump, + System speed's are the same for both nands here.

    True, But we still have access to sysNAND that has a working vWii.
     
  12. xtheman

    xtheman GBAtemp Guru

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    Unless you bricked vwii. Which then your limited to Wii VC because it uses OSv1 instead of your bricked OSv0
     
  13. KevinX8
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    Wupserver is on rednand too so that thosen't really matter CFW sounds better anyway since thats what it pretty much
     
  14. thekarter104

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    IOSUHAX CFW sysNAND.
    All homebrew are in the very early stages anyway. Everything is too early to say anyway.

    My hopes for NTR viewer U on sysNAND!
     
  15. KevinX8
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    Its different for everyone it seems some people report 9 hours to dump or even longer, guessing the NAND chip your wii u came with and sd card would affect the dump speed also if you have some Class II 64GB sd card from china rated at 10MB/s it will only run at that speed so yes it will affect rednand speed
     
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  16. xtheman

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    Never going to happen. NTR viewer only worked on new 3ds because it was running off the extra hardware of the new 3ds which is also why no old 3ds support.
     
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  17. BIFFTAZ

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    Before or after making a redNAND image? If you bricked your vWii before making a redNAND image, It'll be exactly the same on the redNAND image after... Bricked. RedNAND is 1v1 image (Pretty much) of sysNAND on SD card with sig patches & so on.
     
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  18. xtheman

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    But rednand can't boot OSv1 (Wii VC) meaning you can't use any wii related software after bricked vwii
     
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  19. KevinX8
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    Mario Kart 8 can do screen recording so I don't see why this can't be implemented into other games... Will just have to wait and see I guess
     
  20. thekarter104

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    But it's the Wii U, it's strong??