Hacking How/When will you hack your switch for the first time??

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How/when will you hack your switch for the first time?

  • First wave of hack (equivalent of 4.1-4.5 on 3ds)

    Votes: 50 17.5%
  • Wait for a second wave of hack (9.0-9.2)

    Votes: 18 6.3%
  • Use a Flashcart (Gateway)

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • Use a modchip

    Votes: 12 4.2%
  • use a CFW (first that comes out)

    Votes: 141 49.5%
  • Use a CFW (wait for a noob friendly one)

    Votes: 91 31.9%

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    285
I think I will wait for things to become completely safe before hacking. Worse case scenario I don't want to brick my switch to the point I can't even install ofw. By the way, if you mess something up while in the cfw, is there a way to install nintendo ofw afresh?

OFW is not being touched in the whole process.

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I will install custom firmware a week or so after backup loading or GC/ Wii/ Wii U emulation is available.

I wait a week not because I am afraid of being banned (I do not play online), but because many issues are reported (and worked out) during the first days after a release.

If piracy were not a possibility in the near future, I would not have bought a Switch.

Just FYI, while GC is likely and Wii is possible, Wii U emulation/compatibility is not going to happen.

I have to admit that I haven't paid for anything that is digital since about 2003.

You never play online games?
 
OFW is not being touched in the whole process.

I understand that the cfw will be in the sd card but once you get full access to the system file (internal memory) things might go out of hand if you mess up with the NAND right? Which makes me wonder if it's possible to install the ofw from the recovery mode.
 
Almost every word uttered in this thread by proponents of the "what I would like" fraction is fundamentaly wrong by now.

I understand that the cfw will be in the sd card but once you get full access to the system file (internal memory) things might go out of hand if you mess up with the NAND right? Which makes me wonder if it's possible to install the ofw from the recovery mode.

What a wonderful grouping of words.

Whats on the sdcard is an entire copy of the NAND, minus the free space (maybe), whatever you do in the CFW gets stored on the sdcard. Whatever you do in the CFW that gets stored in ram - will be gone, as soon as you shut down the device. Because - ram.

Which makes you wonder if it is possible to reverse the entire process? Why? There is no causal relationship in that statement, whatsoever. The weather outside makes me wonder about chocolate muffins, boy would I like to have one of those now?


Also - no, no one currently is working on a method to flash a CFW to the nand, because that would brick all switches and not make them able to boot. (Wrong package keys.) So in the best case scenario, you would have to hack the Switch to boot now? With a jig? (If at any point a "replacement nand" modchip gets developed, you could put CFW on that - but there havent even been announcements, just people playing with hotswapping - and desoldering memory chips) Furthermore the RCM doesnt give you access to flash the nand directly, the nand recover mode that can get triggered as well checks Nintendo package signatures, having the OFW on a sdcard is the BEST method of getting banned quickly if you give N one of two abilities - either to check execution times on certain firmware processes (which will differ on sdcard), or to identify CFW - in some form, when you are going online with it.

Also, they'd have a real argument for banning you from their online services for once, because you use them with CFW (can run unintended code).

You'll touch the original nand when you back it up. Apart from that, from the current point of view, you'll not touch it again. In the future other methods might change that (fixing the supernag bit is still something people might be interested in, also maybe savegame copies from OFW to CFW, and stuff like that) - maybe people are also still working on hacks that would make f-g unteathered, those would be major alterations, but none of those are announced, or even hinted at currently. Apart from that whatever CFW does, should not affect OFW, and vice versa.
 
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I understand that the cfw will be in the sd card but once you get full access to the system file (internal memory) things might go out of hand if you mess up with the NAND right? Which makes me wonder if it's possible to install the ofw from the recovery mode.

There is zero reason to fuck around with the eMMC FS if you're on CFW.
 
There is zero reason to fuck around with the eMMC FS if you're on CFW.

32gb unused space is a reason. It might not be one that is important to you.

Installing the exFat driver is a pretty good reason too, again that might not be important to you.

If/when the untethered exploit comes out that SciresM mentioned, then that will be another reason.
 
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I'll most likely don't hack my current switch cause I heard it's really unlikely that piracy of current fw games will work see ps4 and PS vita and well don't want to wait years for playing. And it's really likely that Nintendo bans us so no eshop games? Also if we wouldn't be able to update to current fw we wouldn't be able to buy and play the games. Which I would do for games such as pokemon, smash, Mario kart or 3d Mario. On the other side I really love Rom hacks, save editing and emulators. So atm Idk and will wait what the teams say and what the future shows. Anyone know what the teams say about that atm? I mean using current fw etc.
 
The moment CFW gets released and we actually can play games. I am not going to put shitty linux on my switch because for that I have like 4 raspberry pi's.
 
I will when cfw becomes stable on the switch:creep:
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I'll probably play around with the first CFW that's available, doesn't matter about whether it requires a hardmod. Main issue for me is not wanting to risk losing my game saves - I have 50+ hours each on Mario Odyssey, BotW and MK8, which isn't something that happens much for me these days and I wouldn't want to lose them, as apart from Mario Kart, it would probably mean not being bothered to go back to them.
 
There is zero reason to fuck around with the eMMC FS if you're on CFW.

Actually permanent CFW might be a good reason I think. Indeed it would be a waste to keep the internal memory unused and taking up space we're not using. If CFW is stable enough and capable of simulating OFW, then that's an option to consider.
 
Just FYI, while GC is likely and Wii is possible, Wii U emulation/compatibility is not going to happen
Really? Man!, I thought that emulating Wii U (through custom firmware) was possible.

I have been thinking about getting a Wii U, but I never find the time to play in front of the TV. I got a Vita TV about a year ago, but I hardly ever played it. And it has nothing to do with the game catalogue, for I bought it for games that I already liked, like the 'Ys' series. I just prefer a handheld, which I can play on the balcony or the garden, or in bed, before going to sleep.

In any case, yeah, I will hack the Switch shortly after piracy is available.
 
Actually permanent CFW might be a good reason I think. Indeed it would be a waste to keep the internal memory unused and taking up space we're not using. If CFW is stable enough and capable of simulating OFW, then that's an option to consider.

How often do you want to have me describe IN ONE THREAD, that this will only cause the Switch to never be able to boot again, without a jig, or a permanently shorted pin 10.

WHAT PART OF WE CANT SIGN FIRMWARES TO APPEAR AS LEGIT NINTENDO SIGNED, didnt you understand?

Why are people inhere still talking about the most made up stuff, never to conceptually happen in the next two years? WHY IS NOONE ADDRESSING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM? *explatiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive*

Can this insane asylum congregation, please stop?

Please?

Also, on the list of consideration of where to place CFW "so much "wasted space"" ranks at about the 51th place.

Is this the paypack of the uneducated? Do they now have to come in hundreds thanking each other for misleading them so good, and list their made up ideas, and then vote on them? Dear god - I'm in hell!

What lowlife told you, that Switch CFWs would work like PS3 CFW, because they really don't. Not even remotely.

What bootrom hack means, is that we are able to induce code at the boot stage that allows us to run unsigned firmwares. But to insert it, we need a jig and a connected powered device to boot the switch into a recovery mode and then glitch out the system there - otherwise CFW will not boot. Now you wan't to replace the only firmware that boots on your system per default, with another thing that would have the switch not turning on by default? Oh my - that sounds like a swell idea to me.

"Ruining your switches boot up - can save you space!"
 
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A few conditions

1 - There's emunand available.

2 - The process of hacking is tested at 99% success rate and it's dumb-proofed and streamlined.

3 - When there are games released besides ARMs (which I already own legit) that I actually want to play (Octopath Traveler, Fire Emblem *wink* *wink*).

I guess I'm meeting 1 and 2 sooner than 3 so no hurry as of now just trying to keep my switch batteries at 30-80% ish to preserve them for when the time comes.
 
Already hacked mine on FW 3.0.0, happily playing around with various homebrew apps and fusee payloads until full blown CFW drops. Nintendo are really doing what they can to push people into hacking by announcing there will be no virtual console, no planned free way to backup game saves etc etc.

Having said that, i'll still be paying for their planned online service on my fw 5.0.2 switch so I can play online and play some classic NES titles with extra content :-)
 
How often do you want to have me describe IN ONE THREAD, that this will only cause the Switch to never be able to boot again, without a jig, or a permanently shorted pin 10.

WHAT PART OF WE CANT SIGN FIRMWARES TO APPEAR AS LEGIT NINTENDO SIGNED, didnt you understand?

Why are people inhere still talking about the most made up stuff, never to conceptually happen in the next two years? WHY IS NOONE ADDRESSING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM? *explatiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive*

Can this insane asylum congregation, please stop?

Please?

Also, on the list of consideration of where to place CFW "so much "wasted space"" ranks at about the 51th place.

Is this the paypack of the uneducated? Do they now have to come in hundreds thanking each other for misleading them so good, and list their made up ideas, and then vote on them? Dear god - I'm in hell!

What lowlife told you, that Switch CFWs would work like PS3 CFW, because they really don't. Not even remotely.

What bootrom hack means, is that we are able to induce code at the boot stage that allows us to run unsigned firmwares. But to insert it, we need a jig and a connected powered device to boot the switch into a recovery mode and then glitch out the system there - otherwise CFW will not boot. Now you wan't to replace the only firmware that boots on your system per default, with another thing that would have the switch not turning on by default? Oh my - that sounds like a swell idea to me.

"Ruining your switches boot up - can save you space!"

Chill mate! And why can't I decide to have custom switch for homebrew purposes only? Besides nothing prevents me from backing-up whatever is stored in the internal memory in the future. Like I said it's something to consider.
 
Chill mate! And why can't I decide to have custom switch for homebrew purposes only? Besides nothing prevents me from backing-up whatever is stored in the internal memory in the future. Like I said it's something to consider.

This guys is always nervous around here, he thinks he owns GBAtemp. kek.
 
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