Hot Take: The Switch 2 Could've Been Better With Discs

[TPMJB]

He's just a troll who is jealous of the fastest selling console of all-time and ignorant of how many games are exclusive to the platform and how S1 games all run better with the system update and how Sony only has about 4 exclusives left now that they've published everything in superior versions for Windows -- unlike Nintendo which has actual exclusives.

But really: Why are we still discussing the discs thing? There's a ZERO percent chance that Nintendo was ever going to do it because it is a terrible idea for all the reasons stated. What more needs to be said here?

Oh yeah, suuuuuper jealous. Yeah, going through my physical library of SNES and N64 games where there are 30+ bangers on each system, I'm definitely jealous Nintendo is looking at every possible way to milk their old IP dry and produce 5 remotely playable games for the last two generations. It's telling that I've spent more time on the NS1 modifying it than I have actually playing the games.

I especially love that the NS1 upgrades on the NS2 are often paywalled! Yeah you own your hardware, but you should pay Nintendo to use it!

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Oh yeah, suuuuuper jealous. Yeah, going through my physical library of SNES and N64 games where there are 30+ bangers on each system, I'm definitely jealous Nintendo is looking at every possible way to milk their old IP dry and produce 5 remotely playable games for the last two generations. It's telling that I've spent more time on the NS1 modifying it than I have actually playing the games.

I especially love that the NS1 upgrades on the NS2 are often paywalled! Yeah you own your hardware, but you should pay Nintendo to use it!

The alternative is getting a remaster that you have to re-purchase as if you never owned it in the first place like what you get on other consoles and PC. So I don't think this is that bad. They are effectively remasters.

 

[TPMJB]

The alternative is getting a remaster that you have to re-purchase as if you never owned it in the first place like what you get on other consoles and PC. So I don't think this is that bad. They are effectively remasters.

Nah, lazy remasters aside, all the "upgrades" are doing is allowing the NS2 to run at higher clock speeds. It's even lazier than the lazy remasters.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Nah, lazy remasters aside, all the "upgrades" are doing is allowing the NS2 to run at higher clock speeds. It's even lazier than the lazy remasters.

That's factually not true.
They already run at higher clock speeds without the upgrade.
At the very least, the upgrade packs allow them to run at higher resolution/refresh rate with higher resolution textures/higher LOD. Some games have additional changes on top of that (and their upgrade packs are typically priced higher)
All that doesn't come automatically just from increasing the clock speeds. They had to tweak the graphics settings to optimize for the new hardware and put the effort into play testing to make sure that it all works well.
Lazy, perhaps, but no more than any other remaster. That is about what you get from most remasters.

 

[TPMJB]

That's factually not true.
They already run at higher clock speeds without the upgrade.
At the very least, the upgrade packs allow them to run at higher resolution/refresh rate with higher resolution textures/higher LOD. Some games have additional changes on top of that (and their upgrade packs are typically priced higher)
All that doesn't come automatically just from increasing the clock speeds. They had to tweak the graphics settings to optimize for the new hardware and put the effort into play testing to make sure that it all works well.
Lazy, perhaps, but no more than any other remaster. That is about what you get from most remasters.

Bro they did no "tweaking". Retroarch upscales a 240P image to 4K automatically. You can also do that with every game system supported by Retroarch. There's no effort put in by Nintendo aside from maybe outsourcing playtesting to 10 people in some impoverished village somewhere.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Bro they did no "tweaking". Retroarch upscales a 240P image to 4K automatically. You can also do that with every game system supported by Retroarch. There's no effort put in by Nintendo aside from maybe outsourcing playtesting to 10 people in some impoverished village somewhere.

What are you talking about? This isn't upscaling, it's native. If you don't understand the difference, then you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[TPMJB]

What are you talking about? This isn't upscaling, it's native.

You greatly overestimate the work put into these "upgrade packs".

 

[sarkwalvein]

While it is true that the "remasters" are not just "allowing it to use higher clock speeds", it is also true most of them are very lazy and is what usually would come for free in other systems... that said, wasn't this thread about the game key card fiasco?

I still stand by what I said before, I am more annoyed by the lack of honesty / false advertisement than for the "all digital" stuff, if you sell a console for which most software is digital only (or depend on servers still being available to install / same shit), make it clear, don't deceive/scam your clients. The same can be said about "game key discs" that require a zero-day updates or always-online checks on other systems, cards are not the problem, the trends/greed in the industry are.

 

[TPMJB]

While it is true that the "remasters" are not just "allowing it to use higher clock speeds", it is also true most of them are very lazy and is what usually would come for free in other systems... that said, wasn't this thread about the game key card fiasco?

I still stand by what I said before, I am more annoyed by the lack of honesty / false advertisement than for the "all digital" stuff, if you sell a console for which most software is digital only (or depend on servers still being available to install / same shit), make it clear, don't deceive/scam your clients. The same can be said about "game key discs" that require a zero-day updates or always-online checks on other systems, cards are not the problem, the trends/greed in the industry are.

Well, zoom out enough and it's all a big scam, which is the gripe. Game key cards are the way in which we own nothing at all, and physical data dies. At least on my PC I can backup all my Steam games to my NAS. If Nintendo decides to kill support, I have nothing.

 

[VmprHntrD]

It's not that black and white with game key cards or the other guys non-game key card like discs too. There are a couple valid reasons for stuff to go that way, not that I like it, but it's a design choice we're forced to accept, or at least accept at a steep discount sometime later not to encourage it.

 

[Marc_LFD]

It's not that black and white with game key cards or the other guys non-game key card like discs too. There are a couple valid reasons for stuff to go that way, not that I like it, but it's a design choice we're forced to accept, or at least accept at a steep discount sometime later not to encourage it.

Nah, not buying it.

 

[Viri]

Nah, fuck these things. I hope to never deal with them ever again.