Hacking Hacking DSi 2015?

[OctopusRift]

Are you saying about my exploit ?

Yep!

 

[st4rk]

Yep!

It can run code in DSi-mode, however the SDMC doesn't work =p (How I said before, DSi disable it).

 

[Gadorach]

We're actually currently working on some DSi hax right now which will allow dsiwarehax and downgrading on 1.4.5. It'll require physical NAND reading, similar 3DS nand mods. More news on that when it's ready.

Saw all the work being done on the 3DS now and figured you'd give the DSi some love eh? Haha
Mad respect though, I've seen the pics of some of the early RE setups for the DSi, like 15 logic analyzers soldered to every port, the RAM chip fitted with a substrate layer with complete pinout and direct dumping of the RAM while it's running. Shit was legit hardware porn. If you're doing it all in software, that's pretty bold too, but if you set it up like that, even more respect. Good luck though, maybe it'll turn out like Katsu's work on the Vita, doing NAND manipulation through hardware RW, and making it crash just right to make it request the lowest allowed firmware to install back for recovery. Either way, good luck, and I'll get a DSi myself if all goes well.

 

[st4rk]

Saw all the work being done on the 3DS now and figured you'd give the DSi some love eh? Haha
Mad respect though, I've seen the pics of some of the early RE setups for the DSi, like 15 logic analyzers soldered to every port, the RAM chip fitted with a substrate layer with complete pinout and direct dumping of the RAM while it's running. Shit was legit hardware porn. If you're doing it all in software, that's pretty bold too, but if you set it up like that, even more respect. Good luck though, maybe it'll turn out like Katsu's work on the Vita, doing NAND manipulation through hardware RW, and making it crash just right to make it request the lowest allowed firmware to install back for recovery. Either way, good luck, and I'll get a DSi myself if all goes well.

Are you saying the Scanlime DSi RAM Hax ? If yes, this is unbelievable and epic =)

 

[OctopusRift]

It can run code in DSi-mode, however the SDMC doesn't work =p (How I said before, DSi disable it).

Could we use the internet connection? NVM... not important... what's the exploit!

 

[st4rk]

Could we use the internet connection? NVM... not important... what's the exploit!

http://davejmurphy.com/dsi-homebrew-redux/

 

[OctopusRift]

http://davejmurphy.com/dsi-homebrew-redux/

Ah... I knew about this... but... what does this have to do with FlipHax? (Named it!)

 

[Gadorach]

Are you saying the Scanlime DSi RAM Hax ? If yes, this is unbelievable and epic =)

Her stuff was really amazing, but she's not the only, or even the first, person to have a huge setup like that for RE work on the DSi. Too bad her work didn't really lead anywhere useful for us, but if she still had that setup, I'm sure it would be really useful for current devs to have to work with. Someone should hit her up and see if she'd be willing to donate her work, ha ha.

 

[st4rk]

Ah... I knew about this... but... what does this have to do with FlipHax? (Named it!)

It was only a supposition, I think it can be exploited =p. However I gave up.

Her stuff was really amazing, but she's not the only, or even the first, person to have a huge setup like that for RE work on the DSi. Too bad her work didn't really lead anywhere useful for us, but if she still had that setup, I'm sure it would be really useful for current devs to have to work with. Someone should hit her up and see if she'd be willing to donate her work, ha ha.

Of course their setup did too much help, how do you think the guys behind of scene get the common key ?

 

[OctopusRift]

It was only a supposition, I think it can be exploited =p. However I gave up.


Of course their setup did too much help, how do you think the guys behind of scene get the common key ?

Can I SEE the progress? Or have what you have?

 

[Gadorach]

Of course their setup did too much help, how do you think the guys behind of scene get the common key ?

I didn't say it was no help at all, and it did help with the DSiWare exploits, but it's not quite as useful for us right now, that's all. Their documentation was super valuable though, that's for sure, especially the common key. I just wish they'd gone further with it, instead of leaving the console to rot.

 

[st4rk]

Can I SEE the progress? Or have what you have?

Nah, I don't have any kind of progress, how I said, I gave up and was sometime ago sorry.

 

[OctopusRift]

Nah, I don't have any kind of progress, how I said, I gave up and was sometime ago sorry.

Do you have any documentation or files?

 

[st4rk]

Do you have any documentation or files?

No, sorry buddy :\

 

[OctopusRift]

OHHH... alright... looks like it's time to start searching!

 

[Jiro2]

OctopusRift: Nobody mentioned it in this thread yet, but the custom firmwares for the 3DS can run DSiware on the 3DS directly. It may not be exactly what you asked for but it is a way to run whatever you wish. It won't boot carts, though.

Everyone: Would it ever be feasible to have a ROM loader? The DSi is in the situation I dread happening for other systems: all the hackers managed to prevent piracy, and then years later, when the system isn't on the market any more, you still can't pirate, even though DSi piracy is now about as objectionable as running SNES emulators.

 

[reiyu]

Nobody mentioned it in this thread yet, but the custom firmwares for the 3DS can run DSiware on the 3DS directly.

but not everyone has a 3ds...

 

[Jiro2]

but not everyone has a 3ds...

Yes, but he did say "I'm writing a small program using an old exploit to try to port unsigned software to the 3DS". He probably woudn't say that if he doesn't have a 3DS.

 

[Gadorach]

Yes, but he did say "I'm writing a small program using an old exploit to try to port unsigned software to the 3DS". He probably woudn't say that if he doesn't have a 3DS.

I think you're missing the actually important thing here. Wolfy stated they are working on a way to downgrade the DSi and install DSiWareHax. All it takes is some NAND-RW so far from what Wolfy said. That's actually consistent with what yellows8 said back in the day, they just didn't bother to reveal a way to extract the TWCert from an extracted NAND. I'm assuming it has a common-key crypto for the header and boot area, and they got the keys already. It's funny though, I'm actually more excited for a potential hack for an older system than I am for the hacks coming out for the 3DS right now.

 

[loco365]

I have cookhax on my DSi right now, unfortunately because of that I don't have NAND access. I wonder if something similar to a ROP chain could be done to allow NAND access.

Also, rather unfortunate, I don't have sudokuhax, so I think my experience with my DSi may be limited.