GW 3DS bickering thread

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by CreAtor135, May 17, 2016.

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  1. CreAtor135
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    How long are you gonna throw around this '6 month' statistic? You say a9lh has been around for 6 months and you're now saying 10.4-10.7 downgrade has been available for 6 months. Geez both of these advancements happened in February and March. We aren't even in the 6th month of the year yet and these all definitely took place in 2016. Is it hard to say 2-3 months? Maybe not even mention a number, just "a couple months"
     
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  2. stl25

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    @squee666 hates Gateway and that's OK. I will use mine and it won't affect him in the slightest. Have a good day.


    Edit: Gateway did hose themselves on this last update though (29 March 2016). Probably should have waited until they were a little closer to an actual release than keep us waiting for a little less than 2 months (provided the release actually comes out on or near the 22nd of May)
     
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    Isn't downgrading been around for a year? Ever since gateway introduced it on 9.2 FW? XD

    Then it didn't become available for a while until a new breakthrough.
     
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  4. squee666

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    i never said 10.4-10.7 i said downgrading in general (from 9.3)

    The exploits and code that allowed downgrading and A9LH were freely available from December last year

    Also considering they announced their Downgrader in the *Coming Days* back in february
    after a fully functional one was released.

    I will leave this here
    @TuxSH stole it from you

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. stl25

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    Gateway functioning on your 3DS SINCE 2013.
    CFW is like GW customized and improved.
    But I like the fact that it is still relevant (despite waiting for updates)
    Looks like a win win unless you had a clone and the brick code claimed you. Shitty business practice yes, but don't say Nintendo didn't warn us of unofficial software/hardware being used on 3DS.


    @squee666,

    Forum talk is heresy until it actually happens. Anyone can say they are going to release a downgrader and not deliver (insert @JustPingo here). Here is the post from their Official site dated 29 March 2016. Funny I don't see the word downgrade anywhere in there (implied by us users).

    29/03 - 10.3 and A9Hax support.
    Posted on March 29, 2016
    We are almost there!

    The next big updates with 10.3 and A9hax support, as well as a nice surprise, are just around the corner.

    We apologize for the delay to fulfill our announcement, but as always we deliver. Please understand weare still supporting our V1 hardware from a few years ago, which in the case of this major update has proven quite challenging.
    We are very proud that users who bought their device 3 years ago still enjoy full support, although it has caused some delay.
    And we will continue to do so by making sure all Gateway users, old and new, are receiving more than they expected for their money worth.

    10.3 support and A9Hax will be released separately in the coming days to save from further delays. We are starting to expand our testing panel to more Alpha testers on various consoles types, regions, firmware etc. so it shouldn’t be long. But please for safety reason do not use any new Gateway firmware until we have confirmed test results and released the official update.

    Thank you for your patience, get ready to ‘enjoy’!
     
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    Even if the code for a9lh was readily available, it saw no implementation until at least February.

    The downgrade from 9.3+ if you wanna go that far was in EARLY January. Still 4 months and 13 days.

    The coming days announcement was in March. March 29th to be exact, so the end of March. And they never announced a downgrader, they said there was a method to downgrade from 10.3 already available, and that they were working on a solution to that based on how dangerous it was.
     
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    You've forgotten they were the first to feature the downgrade from 9.2 to 4.5 back then. That helped the community a lot, you didn't need a Gateway cart to downgrade and it was just them that allows the downgrade for a while. It took a while for a new downgrader to help those on <10.3. But your hate on Gateway is totally boundless. This thread I believe are for Gateway users. What's your point in all this?
     
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    CreAtor135 GBATemp's #1 Nothing

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    Get rid of the link. You could get b&.
     
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    Post edited, good looking out.

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    I don't mind his opinion (@squee666 ), I just wonder if he was a casualty of the brick code they introduced or is just taking up the voice for the people who fell victim to it. I admit it is a terrible business practice but they are not a traditional business. Questionable decision that led to some interesting forum reads.


    Here's an interesting tidbit: Some are quick to trash GW and it's business practices, yet cell phone plans are the biggest scam on the planet and people can't get enough. Prepaid 4life or until money is no longer an issue.
     
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  10. astronautlevel

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    Any dev that intentionally bricks an end users device is a piece of shit. I don't care that they "aren't a traditional business," destroying the hardware that the end user has is not okay.
     
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    lol yeah my favourite part was when a gbatemp member sent gateway a couple of 3DS's to get unbricked from their *sorry service*
    He got his postage tracked and sent to the Depot they collect from.
    It was reported signed and collected by a woman (maybe the one used in the videos)
    Gateway then informed him they didnt receive any of his devices even though he had full tracking and receipt on it

    Gateway then shortly after removed all their contact info from the website

    Master Business Plan

    Brick Customers Consoles
    Offer unbricking service
    get sent consoles
    deny recieving consoles
    remove contact info

    Free Consoles
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    People should'be just been aware of things like these happening, it isn't gateway's fault they had some code that accidentally messed with people's systems
     
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    Not really wanting to debate the morale behind their actions. They just designed their DRM with a case or Roid Rage. Nintendo clearly states it is not responsible for damage caused by unofficial software/hardware so piece of shit or not it falls on us. I know there were some supposedly legit GW users who bricked but I don't know how much of that I am ready to believe.
     
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    GW has no intention of bricking their own users' devices, and if they did, they will replace them. They bricked people who thought to buy another card that was emulating their plugin. They did no hard work to create anything, they just flat out said "we emulate gateway".

    And yes, I know about the one report of someone not receiving their console back or something, but I'm sure there was a mishap of some sort with that case.

    AND ANOTHER THING, people seem to doubt how well this reimplementation of brick code is handled. Don't complain about it unless a genuine Gateway owner get's bricked from beta 3.4 and up.
     
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    Scam me once shame on you. Scam me twice shame on me. Anybody who bricked should have quit while they were ahead and just bought a new console. We know the risks associated with these types of things. It is not something new. I admit shitty business practice, but it's like a bad review of a product. Take the info and filter it and make your own decision not everybody had a bad experience with GW or any product sold for that matter. I am not justifying their actions, just clarifying that the blame is not theirs alone (clone clown 3DS down).
     
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    Users who bricked should be pissed but not entitled anything. Ebay scams happen daily and business is booming. If you have a shitty experience use it for exactly that and take measures to hopefully avoid a similar experience in the future.
     
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    You need to fix your cache settings, dude. Nothing was implied; They posted it. You're just not seeing their latest update.
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
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    It was stated that a downgrader was announce in Feb by @squee666. My response was that forum talk is cheap and in their official announcement on March 29, 2016, there was no direct mention of a downgrader. My cache settings are just fine dude. The reference to downgrader was made in the forums. FACT.


    Edit: Seems you missed the boat on my post. My post was in response to @squee666 post here:
    http://gbatemp.net/threads/gateway-3ds-a9lh-downgrade-release-planned-on-may-22nd.426757/page-9

    Post 173.

    Obviously they have been talking downgrade for awhile but until the post you linked it had been through the forums and not on the official site. @squee666 was off the rails in his post.
     
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  19. evandixon

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    Everyone's blaming Gateway for bricking people. Granted they do deserve some of it. But no one's focusing on who holds the most responsibility: the clone manufacturers. Of all the bricks, only like 3 happened to GW customers (under very specefic circumstances). These clone manufacturers stole GW's work without even trying to make it safe, then gave it to their own users. In a way, the clones bricked their own users.
     
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    Gateway shouldn't even put the brick code in the first place. And the thing I don't get is the damn drm. That's just wrong for paid piracy
     
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